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Jan 28th, 2007

A sincere request for a separate C++ section

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Hi,

I have been a Daniweb memeber for the last 3-4 months. I am now learning C++ on Linux on my own using the tutorials available on this very good site. But I always struggle a bit and sometimes a lot when I am looking for C++ related threads and discussions/code etc. Can we have a dedicated section for C++ discussions instead of having C and C++ together under the category Software Development. If not then, can we just request the members who want to post a language specific question (C or C++) to make the title of the new thread/question by following the below given simple rules in order to help all of us here.

Name of the language C or C++ in capital letters, followed by a ' :' and then the actual question starts. Something like this,

C++ : How to declare this variable?

OR

C : How to use this method?

Hope I am not trying to discredit the hardwork of the forum admins or site designers. This is just a polite request with the best possible intentions. Please let me know if this is a sensible request. Cheers.

Last edited by tech291083; Jan 28th, 2007 at 10:40 am.

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Re: A sincere request for a separate C++ section

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Hi,
Can we have a dedicated section for C++ discussions instead of having C and C++ together under the category Software Development.

I don't think this is a good idea. The C/C++ forum is visited by a lot of newbies which don't have a clue that there's a difference between C and C++. So what you'll get is a lot of extra work for the moderators and a lot of 'moved to the [...]forum' posts.

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Name of the language C or C++ in capital letters, followed by a ' :' and then the actual question starts. Something like this,

In a perfect world this would be a excellent suggestion. But making such a rule has a few problems.
When posting code in de C forum, everyone should use code tags. Now I don't know the exact stats, but I would say that 75% of the newbie posters ignore this rule.
This would become a simulair problem with your suggestion.

regards Niek

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Re: A sincere request for a separate C++ section

Click to Expand / Collapse Quote originally posted by tech291083 ...

I have been a Daniweb memeber for the last 3-4 months. I am now learning C++ on Linux on my own using the tutorials available on this very good site. But I always struggle a bit and sometimes a lot when I am looking for C++ related threads and discussions/code etc. Can we have a dedicated section for C++ discussions instead of having C and C++ together under the category Software Development.

Not a bad idea. Splitting has worked on other forums I deal with.

Click to Expand / Collapse Quote originally posted by tech291083 ...

If not then, can we just request the members who want to post a language specific question (C or C++) to make the title of the new thread/question by following the below given simple rules in order to help all of us here.

We have a rule that states "Do not post threads with generic subjects such as "HELP ME" or "PROBLEM". Instead, clearly state a phrase describing the problem as the thread's title.". And we still get titles like

Help in deciding...(bear in mind that i am new to c/c++)
Need help with an assignment that is due tomorrow plzzzz
Another doubt.
C++ Builder.
struct output Help

so I doubt this is a reasonable request.

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Re: A sincere request for a separate C++ section

Hello.

Click to Expand / Collapse Quote originally posted by niek_e ...

I don't think this is a good idea. The C/C++ forum is visited by a lot of newbies which don't have a clue that there's a difference between C and C++. So what you'll get is a lot of extra work for the moderators and a lot of 'moved to the [...]forum' posts.

Yes, considering 90% of people frequenting C / C++ forums come for a quick fix, I don't think they would even bother seeing where they are posting -- not to post most of them don't even know whether they are dealing with C or C++.

Quote originally posted by Niek ...

Now I don't know the exact stats, but I would say that 75% of the newbie posters ignore this rule.

Aren't you being a bit optimistic....I would say um.. 95% don't use code tags properly.

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Not a bad idea. Splitting has worked on other forums I deal with.

I wonder who would agree to do this ardous task....

But seriously there are two options:

Either start seperating the threads in the forums into catergories i.e. C or C++, which I guess is really time consuming
Mark all the current threads as that belonging to C++ and create a new C forum.

Thank you.

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Re: A sincere request for a separate C++ section

Not to mention some newbies start mixing together C and C++, which would only make a moderator's duty even harder...

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Not to mention some newbies start mixing together C and C++, which would only make a moderator's duty even harder...

I sometimes do that myself, and I've been programming for 20 years:eek: There are some c++ constructs that I just do not like, so I toss C functions into the mix. I'll use efficient fprintf() when I need fairly complex formatting because c++ streams are difficult, cumbersome and obnoxious.

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I sometimes do that myself, and I've been programming for 20 years:eek: There are some c++ constructs that I just do not like, so I toss C functions into the mix. I'll use efficient fprintf() when I need fairly complex formatting because c++ streams are difficult, cumbersome and obnoxious.

Yes, it's amazing that C++ streams which were supposed to be so much easier to use than the old C functions still leave a lot to be left wanting. Seems that the old pattern method of printing hasn't gone dead yet.

I think the key is to know actually why you're mixing C and C++ functions, and to be experienced enough to know the pitfalls of using them together. Of course, being a software engineer, this is probably not in the least a problem for you.

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Re: A sincere request for a separate C++ section

This topic was discussed not too long back on the mod board, I believe. Y'all might want to look it up before rehashing too much -- that is, if it already hasn't been mentioned or reincarnated there.

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This topic was discussed not too long back on the mod board, I believe. Y'all might want to look it up

Us 'normal people' can't really look in the mod-board

(I seem to be missing a badge for that)

If this was a poll I would vote against, sorry bout that tech291083.

Niek

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Us 'normal people' can't really look in the mod-board (I seem to be missing a badge for that)

Uh, sorry. I can't find it myself; I've lost my super-powers. I remember contriubting to the thread, is all.

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