Here's an example of why all these games are a problem. They pollute the site. This is an example of clicking "Posts Since Last Visit". All this pointless activity is rendering portions of the site useless.
The bigger issue remains: why are we attracting users who like to spend most of their time here posting in these threads?
I think there are only a handful of users who post in those silly games -- and some of the mods have posted in them too. I've even seen Ms. Dani a couple times, which is very very rare occasion. Rather than stop it probably having their own board in Coffee House would be better solution.
That was an "All Forums". Admittedly, the timing had to be just right for all of them to be Geek's Lounge threads, but that reinforces my point: way too much activity in balance to the rest of the site. It would be nice to have a way to exclude sections from certain searches (Today's Posts, Posts Since Last Visit). That would address the symptom though, and not the disease.
Your penchant for hyperbole makes it hard for me to take you seriously. You use words like "pollute" and "desease" to describe the problem as you see it. It makes your opinion seem less than objective, but maybe it is less than objective and that is your point? I honestly don't know.
But I do get the sense of some underlying motive for your comments about the quality of posts and how it affects this forum. I could be totally wrong, I'm just giving you my honest opinion, and maybe my perception of your motivation is wrong, but it comes across as negative and critical instead of helpful or insightful.
Of course my opinions are subjective. And "hyperbole" is exactly the right term, and it would be appropriate to imagine me saying much of what I say with a wry grin on my face. I do think the Geek's Lounge gamers are polluting the site, though - that much isn't an exaggeration and reflects exactly how I feel.
As to my motivation, I'm not sure what you want me to say. Perhaps if you told me what you think my motivation is, I could respond.
I get the sense that you are motivated by personal reasons, but what those reasons are I have no clue. Sort of like hearing two people arguing, you can tell they are angry or upset, but you have no idea why. It seems like you are upset about something more than just the quality or quantity of "geek" posts. But maybe not, maybe I am just getting the wrong impression. If I am, my apologies.
I do think the Geek's Lounge gamers are polluting the site, though - that much isn't an exaggeration and reflects exactly how I feel.
If you think the Geek's Lounge is a 'polluting' atmosphere, then don't go there! It's as simple as that. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean you have the right to say it should be shut down. I truly believe that the Administrators, aka DANI, knows what she is doing!
No need to apologize. No, I have no personal axe to grind here. The only source of bitterness is IntelliTXT, a topic I've already exhausted, and which has nothing to do with the concerns about the changing atmosphere and member demographics of Daniweb.
When I say Daniweb has changed for the worse, that the quality of postings has deteriorated, that we're attracting non-technical members, and that the staff seems much more tolerant of all of the above - that's exactly what I mean and the only motive is to let the administration know about the concern, and provide others who might feel the same an opportunity to say "yeah, what he said".
If you think the Geek's Lounge is a 'polluting' atmosphere, then don't go there! It's as simple as that.
No, it isn't. Please re-read the original post in the thread; I'm not going to hash this out ad infinitum with you. If you don't understand or agree with my observations, that's fine. You're welcome to post your own feedback about how great Forum Games are and what a polluting influence tgreer is. What's great is that you'll get many to agree with you. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean you have the right to say it should be shut down. Sure I do. Everyone has the right to post whatever feedback they like, and even if they didn't, I have certainly earned the right to make observations about long-term trends on Daniweb. I truly believe that the Administrators, aka DANI, knows what she is doing! That's exactly my point. This trend isn't an accident, there is certainly a concious attempt to change the culture of the site. I'm providing feedback about that change.
I think there are only a handful of users who post in those silly games -- and some of the mods have posted in them too. I've even seen Ms. Dani a couple times, which is very very rare occasion. Rather than stop it probably having their own board in Coffee House would be better solution.
That sounds like a reasonable approach. I would also like the ability to "hide" that section from site searches.
No need to apologize. No, I have no personal axe to grind here. The only source of bitterness is IntelliTXT, a topic I've already exhausted, and which has nothing to do with the concerns about the changing atmosphere and member demographics of Daniweb.
When I say Daniweb has changed for the worse, that the quality of postings has deteriorated, that we're attracting non-technical members, and that the staff seems much more tolerant of all of the above - that's exactly what I mean and the only motive is to let the administration know about the concern, and provide others who might feel the same an opportunity to say "yeah, what he said".
OK, that explains your concerns (to me) much more clearly. That is perfectly reasonable and rational and very understandable.
look get greasemonkey a firefox externsion. It blocks intellitext.
Well, Dani made sure to include a "disable IntelliTXT" option in the User CP, since it seemed like such an issue with vastly different opinions. Without getting into the debate again, I'll point out that tgreer quit because of his personal feelings towards what other people see of his posts, not because he didn't know how to disable it.
And by the way tgreer, I agree with you on just about everything you've said so far.
Also in agreement with tgreer. And while the gaming crowd seems to stress the "lounge" part of it, I prefer to emphasize the "geek" part of it. At this point, I'm spending more time going to other forums when I want some intellectual off-topic discussions. The games are in the way and annoying to work around; putting them in a separate sub-forum is a good way to keep them isolated for those who really want them.
Well, it honestly just seems like tgreer just wants something to complain about. If anything is polluting, it is the negative responses to the Geek's Lounge. There are word games, yes, but there are also other intellectual discussions dealing with politics and religion. You should start looking at the positives. Think about it, I really doubt that Dani is going to close all the word games just because one person doesn't like them. Here's a good suggestion: If you don't agree with it or if you don't like it, then don't go to it. It's a very simple philosophy.
There's nearly half a dozen people that have voiced strong opinions against the games being in the Geek Lounge. Don't keep saying that only one person is complaining. And the point we're trying to make is that if we don't go to the GL, we'll go elsewhere. And take our business with us. Daniweb as a whole will suffer, and we don't what that to happen. We understand your point, we aren't against the concept of the word games. We just don't want them clogging up the space that we'd rather maintain a more selective material. And AFAICT nobody has complained against the discussions.
Well if there are so many people that hate the Geek's Lounge, and if DaniWeb will surely collapse, why hasn't anyone done anything about it? -Maybe because it's really not as big of a deal as people make it to be? I suggest that everyone should probably just let Dani handle this situation. And if you want to tell her about it, PM her! Don't continue to post these threads about how you hate the Geek's Lounge, just do it. That would be much easier, and you wouldn't be offending anyone in the process. I mean, don't you think you're 'clogging up space' by just adding more and more negative replies to this?
