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Obama's Voting Record
Obama defends Roe vs. Wade.
He is pro-choice... which means he is pro-abortion.
Where did you hear that he was against abortion? Everyone knows his stand on this issue. He voted for infanticide. I posted a video about this on another thread.
Yeah, you posted a video that opened with a lie and continued to lie all the way through. Posting lies is not supporting your position very well.
He did not vote for infanticide - that is a lie.
He is pro-choice - that is not pro-abortion.
He defends Roe v Wade because Roe v Wade supports his pro-choice view.
Here are some the bills he sponsored.
I looked at your link and it did not actually show his voting record; it just commented on what they thought his record was (but then so is my link).
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BAIPA is from his time in the Illinois State Senate.
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Click to Expand / Collapse  Quote originally posted by GrimJack ...
Yeah, you posted a video that opened with a lie and continued to lie all the way through. Posting lies is not supporting your position very well.
He did not vote for infanticide - that is a lie.
He is pro-choice - that is not pro-abortion.
He defends Roe v Wade because Roe v Wade supports his pro-choice view.
Here are some the bills he sponsored.
I looked at your link and it did not actually show his voting record; it just commented on what they thought his record was (but then so is my link).
Pro-choice is pro-abortion in my opinion. There is no in between. You're either pro-life or pro-death.
What lies are you talking about?
He DID vote for infanticide. (In 2002, he voted "NO" to protect newborns. A part of the Born Alive Infant Protection Package that protected infants after a failed abortion attempt, Senate Bill 230). That is infanticide.
In 1997 he voted yes to allow partial-birth abortions. (Senate Bill 1661)
In 2000 he voted yes to allow state funding of abortion and induced miscarriages. (House Bill 709)
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I'm 75% certain that I will vote for Obama. I don't want someone who is 7 years older than I am to be President. He needs to be in a nursing home, not the white house. Even French President Charic was only 62 when he was first elected as president.
I know this post was from a while back, but I just had to comment it. Because I work in a nursing home and believe me, he's really not that old. You should see the people I take care of.
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I know this post was from a while back, but I just had to comment it. Because I work in a nursing home and believe me, he's really not that old. You should see the people I take care of.
Yes, I know -- those poor souls in nursing homes are in really bad shape both physically and mentally.

I will correct my statement -- I am now 100% sure I will vote for Obama today. It will have to be later this afternoon though because I have to work today. Unfortunately I think I will have to wait in voting lines a loooooong time.
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I know this post was from a while back, but I just had to comment it. Because I work in a nursing home and believe me, he's really not that old. You should see the people I take care of.
God bless you for working with the elderly! McCain is not old enough to go into a nursing home quite yet, but he is too old to hold a leadership role. The US military wouldn't put an old person like that into even a low rank leadership position.
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In the last few days McCain and his shadow have promissed so many things they will do for us to get extra votes. Most of these are not even in presidents realm. After insulting just about every Democrat in sight, how will they reach across the isle to get all these promisses accomplished? I guess those mavericks don't think about that.
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I know this post was from a while back, but I just had to comment it. Because I work in a nursing home and believe me, he's really not that old. You should see the people I take care of.
It's an incredibly grueling job at any age, from the hours the job demands, the incredible stress, and the lack of any privacy. Much like the campaign. I admire anyone who can do it at any age.
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Pro-choice is pro-abortion in my opinion. There is no in between. You're either pro-life or pro-death.
Your opinion - that is why there is choice - not everyone chooses to believe what you believe.
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What lies are you talking about?
From the beginning of the video "... if Obama had his way, I would be dead"
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He DID vote for infanticide. (In 2002, he voted "NO" to protect newborns. A part of the Born Alive Infant Protection Package that protected infants after a failed abortion attempt, Senate Bill 230). That is infanticide.
Illinois already has a law against killing living persons - he voted against that bill because it had no allowances for health of mother or incest or rape.
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In 1997 he voted yes to allow partial-birth abortions. (Senate Bill 1661)
In 2000 he voted yes to allow state funding of abortion and induced miscarriages. (House Bill 709)
Correct, he supports choice.
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Okay GrimJack, no need to debate anymore.
The election is over.
So you can say whatever you want about your opinions of Obama, but mine will remain the same.
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