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~~~ Possible Proof of Evolution ~~~~
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Hunh? There are fossil records of several variations of paths from the common 'progenitor'. The fossil record does not show animals and plants appearing abruptly. If you have sources for your statements, I would like to see them.

Before we get too deep into this discussion, I need to know if you believe in a New Earth or Old Earth - if you believe in a New Earth, then there is not much room for discussion. Do you believe that everything was created exactly as it is in 7 days within the last 10-100,000 years? If so, how do you explain the various forms of finding the age of items (fossils, rocks, etc) using radio-active half-life?
No, I don't believe in new earth, think it is ridiculous and amazing that many Creationists still do. I do believe that a single organism can adapt, but to make some of the more drastic changes that would have to occur, I do not. However I have been trying to find fossil evidence proving either way and can't find it. All I find is evolutionists and creationists bickering back and forth about what they think is right without any evidence on either side, it's just about who has the best argument. I certainly cannot find any images representing transformations from ape to man. I did find a couple images of fossils that look like they may be transformations but noting like I would expect.
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There are several links on transitional fossils in the Evolution section at the bottom of this thread: http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/...m/841006407831
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Here are a couple of examples which i believe proves the drastic changes which have lead to braching of new species.

Pelvis girdle in whales when they have no use and no legs - Obviously left from when they were land mammals

The appendix in the human - Left from when we were more herbivorous

Wings on ostriches and other birds - they must have been able to fly at some point in history

Why would such a perfect and divine creator place useless part on animals. Common people.
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Why would such a perfect and divine creator place useless part on animals.
Sense of humor?
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good answer. Maybe he gets a kick out of us trying to figure out if evolution is true so he throws in few curve balls like fingers in a whale.

No, but seriously, evolution is the final answer.
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All humans probably have a common human ansistor too, but that doesn't prove or disprove the theory of evolution. Human life probably started somewhere in Africa and spread around the globe from there. Same thing happened to those octopuses. Now, if scientists could some how PROVE that the original octopuse evolved from something else, then that would be an earth-shattering story.
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All humans probably have a common human ansistor too, but that doesn't prove or disprove the theory of evolution. Human life probably started somewhere in Africa and spread around the globe from there. Same thing happened to those octopuses. Now, if scientists could some how PROVE that the original octopuse evolved from something else, then that would be an earth-shattering story.
But that ancestor to humans was the ancestor to the great apes and other primates so wouldn't that point to evolution?
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I know 'like' is a personal choice but, jeeze, can you offer some support for such a radical (or should I say, reactionary) stand?
There are far too many idiots in these threads.
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