Is it possible to build a time machine through the use of programming? - Page 2

[vandenzergen]

Alright, let me just remind us all including me that we are not arguing about the thread but we are all arguing Einstein's theory and absolutely not my theory... whether its true or not it is actually his theory and not my theory, we can't argue with that.

The genius Einstein made this theory and it was very fascinating and interesting that in that fully activated mind he formulated time travel, that time travel is possible. Don't tell me that you are not interested because I know you are. There are no laws in physics that explains that time travel is impossible. Actually, there are several scientists at present who are finding ways to solve time travel and they are not stopping until.... I don't know when, but they are not stopping and it is absolutely okay if you will not give up too.

Let me just ask some questions: Why did Isaac Newton discovered gravity? What drives him to discover that gravity really exist? I'll tell you what, its because Isaac Newton believes. Isaac Newton studied it because of his beliefs...

Think of it over and over again... and you'll get what I mean...
Nevertheless, you are always free to say what you want with those brilliant mind of yours.

[yollyP.]

A timely discussion to start with. With economic chaos here and there, no wonder the time travel thing is a great idea. Everybody will buy this time machine...and yes, why not - through programming...hmmmm... still hard to fathom though - but just an idea of another related "thing".

[GrimJack]

Alright, let me just remind us all including me that we are not arguing about the thread but we are all arguing Einstein's theory and absolutely not my theory... whether its true or not it is actually his theory and not my theory, we can't argue with that.

Einstein's ToR says nothing directly about time travel so it is not his theory. The possibility of time travel is implied in ToR - ToR is not about time travel.

The genius Einstein made this theory and it was very fascinating and interesting that in that fully activated mind he formulated time travel, that time travel is possible.

Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity published in 1905 theoretically speculated that traveling close to the speed of light (300,000,000 meters per second) would physically alter time by dilating it. & Einstein himself being completely aware that not all consequences of a scientific theory is valid, he passed [a]way in 1955 far from being convinced of time travel in factual occurrence.

Don't tell me that you are not interested because I know you are. There are no laws in physics that explains that time travel is impossible. Actually, there are several scientists at present who are finding ways to solve time travel and they are not stopping until.... I don't know when, but they are not stopping and it is absolutely okay if you will not give up too.

I was interested in time travel when I was a child; there are more fascinating things in the universe that I want to see and/or know than time travel.

Interestingly, Gödel claims that the spacetime associated with special relativity is hostile to the notion of temporal passage. The issue arises because the flat, Minkowski spacetime of special relativity admits no unique or privileged decomposition into space and time, in other words, into a series of moments. Two inertial observers with different velocities will disagree on which events are simultaneous with which other events (at least if they use the Einstein simultaneity convention). Thus Gödel thinks that time cannot be said to lapse in a special relativistic world, because the lapsing (the series of moments) would be observer-relative. This means that there is no time because, [e]ach observer has his own set of nows, and none of these various systems of layers can claim the prerogative of representing the objective lapse of time (Gödel 1949a, 203). Gödel thinks that the existence of time requires successive events to come into existence and go out of existence, and that this must be an objective process.

Just to keep the discussion going, one may take the point of view of Lorentz, and arguably Bell (1976), whereby there is an objective lapse of time, that associated with some privileged family of inertial observers. This privileged reference frame is empirically inaccessible but ontologically meaningful, unless one is some sort of verificationist, which Yourgrau is at pains to say that Gödel is not.

Let me just ask some questions: Why did Isaac Newton discovered gravity? What drives him to discover that gravity really exist? I'll tell you what, its because Isaac Newton believes. Isaac Newton studied it because of his beliefs...

No, that is not true - he kept his beliefs separate from his science. He observed the world around him and formulated theories that would account for what he saw. When he could not use tools currently available to do what he wanted, he invented the math necessary (the calculus). None of this has anything to do with his religious beliefs or beliefs in general.

Think of it over and over again... and you'll get what I mean...
Nevertheless, you are always free to say what you want with those brilliant mind of yours.

What I get is that you might not have googled time travel yet

[GrimJack]

The series of rigorous experiments have been done already.

Yes - I was trying to find Vaughn Bode's Cheech Wizard who showed his side-kick 'time-dilation' by kicking him in the b*lls - hah! found it

[Flyin dagger]

I have always been fascinated by time, time travel and all those possibilities about building time machines and travelling through worm holes or whatever but its a daunting task!Because i'm near the conviction that time travel is impossible!How do you travel through something that doesn't exist?
We live our lives around time, its no doubt a cornerstone of human existence but heck!what is it? This thing about time travel raises a very important philosophical question, can something exist without a material form?

[Flyin dagger]

Time travel?!The day this whole ish becomes a reality(if it ever does!) thats when mankind will have tapped into the mind of God. I personally believe time travel is almost impossible simply because time is a construct of the mind, wait, device is a better word. Besides the other side of time is lop-sided, we don't know where exactly time begins, the big bang? i'm not very much informed on the theories surrounding the beginnings but i think time came to be after people discovered number systems, so that makes a math illusion! Its like the whole geography thing with maps and all that, real space is a CONTINUUM!Not marked off in separable points!

[Flyin dagger]

Ey this guy's really fascinated about time travel!I am too,and i obviously am a fan of programming but man let's get real. (Oh i forgot, i believe in God too."An atheist's worst day is the day when he's thankful and has no one to thank.") Bringing belief into the ponderings of a scientific nature is an abomination!I RESPECT the fact that this guy garzen can think but its a little too vague.
Right now time travel is an ivory tower dream!If you use programming, what do you program?I should think programming is about writing codes to control some sort of machine or something so before you code, you got to build your time machine, and just how on earth do you build such a thing. DVDs and cars and cellphones, the technology involved is not too complicated but a time machine!You are talking about the ability to travel at almost the speed of light!!!! Consider the math before you think about building such things, the Einstein genius died knowing that you would have to shove spaghetti up a wildcat's a** for time travel to come close to being a factual occurence!
Travelling at such incomprehensible speeds will require a lot man which we can't give at the moment. Have you understood what significance Einstein's famous equation has for time travel?
Have you considered that light can travel that fast because of negligible mass? I suggest you bury yourself under the books dude, then come back with a convincing theoretical framework, for now you are just like those cloak and dagger day philosophers who tortured themslves in life to be remembered in their death!
You seem to have found something phenomenal about coffee, give Howard Schultz a call.

[Flyin dagger]

Aw man, that's harsh please let the dude live. He's just possessed by some youthful exuberance, once he starts sitting down and putting things together he'll realise next time he has to read his books and think hard before he posts.

[Flyin dagger]

Hey folks, i think this time travel thing is only possible with one's mind you know, like travelling down the memeory lane and all!

Seriously,you cant think about time travel if you cant find a feasible way of dealing with the problem of a combinatorial explosion. Computer science has more problems to worry about> like how to devise an algorithm that can solve a system of 8000 quadratic equations with 1600 binary unknowns or better yet artificial intelligence, than lose hours like slaves trying to work on something that does't agree with experiment.

[Nick Evan]

Is time travel really possible through the use of programming? If only programmers and scientists all around the world gather including those not so intelligent programmers and unite for the same purpose... I guess time travel is not impossible.

Now, this is just time travel... compared to God, time travel is just nothing. Why could someone who believes in God but don't actually believe in time travel?

Are you asking if (all_the_coders_in_the_world == God) ? Or are you pointing out that God is the ultimate l33t hacker?

I think I'll go with Rashakil Fol on this one:

This is the most retarded thread I have ever read.

[Ezzaral]

I'm just trying to figure out if Flyin Dagger is having a conversation with himself or if some posts were deleted ;)

[noodlecode]

Yes, but for this to work you need to make sure that you have
A) a flux capacitor.
B) plutonium

if you don't have plutonium your are going to need
A) a city hall clock tower
B) a lighting storm
C) a large cable running from the clock tower to a near by tree.
D) a large hook on your computer
E) the java JRE

[sloan31]

I knew it was only a matter of time before back to the future came into this...LOL

[GrimJack]

I'm just trying to figure out if Flyin Dagger is having a conversation with himself or if some posts were deleted ;)

Maybe FD never found the "reply with quote" button

[kanaku]

To the author: Let me explain why people are NOT agreeing with this thread.

Your arguments are not making ANY sense. You reason in a roundabout way such as:
- Come on everyone, just because no one was able to do it, doesn't mean it's impossible
- You never know what the next technology would bring
- Isaac Newton discovered gravity because he believed in it

When in fact, you started this thread with the question: is time travel possible through the use of programming? --- something which you haven't answered satisfactorily yourself.

After every post you give, I'm getting the idea that you don't know ENOUGH about the ToR (or even understand whatever it is you know) to make any good supporting arguments.

This is why I keep coming back here... to check if you finally read something useful regarding ToR. Or if you ran your ideas through your physics teacher at least.

*waits*

Nope. Still no difference.

[Flyin dagger]

I'm just trying to figure out if Flyin Dagger is having a conversation with himself or if some posts were deleted ;)

Why is everybody all over my case? Forgive me if its an abomination to post without a quote.Atleast you did see what i wanted to say, that was the intention. But thank you everyone who observed that i didn't qoute, I'll remember that your eyes will always be watching next time I hit the keyboard.

[Ezzaral]

Sure, we saw what you wanted to say - broken into several fragments without context. If you want to respond to several points, quote them so people can follow.

[MosaicFuneral]

Everyday all this thread does is get spammed with ads for porn, maybe it should just be locked?

[davy_zxb]

What if Einstein was a programmer, maybe he can solve this by programming:)

[kanaku]

Everyday all this thread does is get spammed with ads for porn, maybe it should just be locked?

Yes. Nothing like the theory of relativity to invite spam. XD (I don't know why this happens either...)

What if Einstein was a programmer, maybe he can solve this by programming

But then a programmer also needs the hardware to generate that much energy or do whatever it is the program does on a 'physical' level. Even wifi is sent on "wave" signals and even CPUs need a 'motherboard'... and computers need a power supply.

Maybe Einstein and McGyver (macgyver? mc gyver..?) can do it together. With Kenny (southpark) as the test subject.

[Flyin dagger]

Sure, we saw what you wanted to say - broken into several fragments without context. If you want to respond to several points, quote them so people can follow.

Thank you.I appreciate your help very much.

[vandenzergen]

What if Einstein was a programmer, maybe he can solve this by programming:)

What if Einstein is still living today... I'm sure he can solve this...

[vandenzergen]

Einstein is outrageously intelligent, I wonder how he did this theory alone or rather I would say, "how did he formulated this theory?"

For someone who has less knowledge about the theory, it is really very difficult to agree with this time travel thing. As a matter of fact, Einstein's mind evolved too much and its very hard to catch up with it.

As for me, I was still amazed and believed in him. The evolution of science and technology only depends upon the evolution of the human mind. As for now, all of the people out here has not able to let their mind evolved in to something the same as what Einstein did to himself.

[MosaicFuneral]

As for me, I was still amazed and believed in him. The evolution of science and technology only depends upon the evolution of the human mind. As for now, all of the people out here has not able to let their mind evolved in to something the same as what Einstein did to himself.

Psychonauts around the universe are going to smack you, then cry; afterwords, Einstein will smack you as well, then go off smoking his pipe(assuming he's alive as your earlier adverb indicates).

Posted in 420chan's /chem/, the other week:
Why are scientist so dull?

[GrimJack]

Einstein is outrageously intelligent, I wonder how he did this theory alone or rather I would say, "how did he formulated this theory?"

For someone who has less knowledge about the theory, it is really very difficult to agree with this time travel thing. As a matter of fact, Einstein's mind evolved too much and its very hard to catch up with it.

As for me, I was still amazed and believed in him. The evolution of science and technology only depends upon the evolution of the human mind. As for now, all of the people out here has not able to let their mind evolved in to something the same as what Einstein did to himself.

You do not have a clue. You do not know what you are talking about; you do not listen to people who do have a clue; you make up stuff to support your ideas that have no relation to reality.

Go back to school; finish high school; go to college; get a job at the post office. Maybe after a few years you might know enough to hold a conversation on this topic.

[GrimJack]

Finally - an answer to your programming question.

[vandenzergen]

It is still possible... we only have not evolve our minds yet. Programming is the key.

[thoughtcoder]

Time travel is possible. The mind evolves at the rate of time travel. I am a visitor from the future and I got here by programming my mind.

They ask that if time travel were possible, where are the time travelers? Well, here I am.

We will have an openly gay president in 2021, and he'll be a Republican.

[vandenzergen]

Time travel is possible. The mind evolves at the rate of time travel. I am a visitor from the future and I got here by programming my mind.

They ask that if time travel were possible, where are the time travelers? Well, here I am.

We will have an openly gay president in 2021, and he'll be a Republican.

You're from the future right? Can you give me the formula/code? What type of programming language did you used?

[ahihihi...]

yes.. but virtual reality.. LOL