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Re: Can Barack Obama save America?

>Very few Americans like socialism.
Ha! for not liking it, they are embracing it very well. Furthermore, I doubt few could tell what it is.

>But what else can we do?
Stop supporting and believing in the rhetoric of those that foment socialism.

> I haven't heard of a single alternative and positive proposal.
Allow me to doubt that. What is bad is bad, whether there's a different solution or not. (Biting into your assumption)
Remember the urgency with which this all thing started? The doom was so imminent at the door. Big money was approved in unprecedented haste to bail out banks. Suddenly, the purpose of that money started to shift...
Now there's another rush and the gloom and doom is upon ourselves. Stimulus is the "buzz" word everywhere and what started with some few doze billions of dollars, it is now, well above a trillion...
Stop supporting those that foment and preach socialism as an alternative. It is not.
Do you want to hear a proven alternative? Let the people keep the money they honestly have earned by labor, (that include the so called rich, and the so called poor); do not reward those that haven't earned money with their effort in a honest manner. And above anything else, limit the entitlement and size of government in the life of people.
I know that's not what you want to hear, but now you can not say you haven't hear a "single alternative and positive proposal".
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And what do they do with those large homes once they become empty nesters?
Build model railroads.

Oh, wait, won't have any money to buy the models.
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>Very few Americans like socialism.
Ha! for not liking it, they are embracing it very well. Furthermore, I doubt few could tell what it is.
You do not know what it is - unless you can define it.
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>But what else can we do?
Stop supporting and believing in the rhetoric of those that foment socialism.
What socialism? You keep screaming 'socialism'; well - put up or shut up. Define socialism and point to the socialism that you are talking about.
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> I haven't heard of a single alternative and positive proposal.
Allow me to doubt that. What is bad is bad, whether there's a different solution or not. (Biting into your assumption)
Remember the urgency with which this all thing started? The doom was so imminent at the door. Big money was approved in unprecedented haste to bail out banks. Suddenly, the purpose of that money started to shift...
Yeah! that was the lap-dog of the right, W, that shoveled Billions out the door to bankers with no requirement for accountability.
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Now there's another rush and the gloom and doom is upon ourselves. Stimulus is the "buzz" word everywhere and what started with some few doze billions of dollars, it is now, well above a trillion...
No it isn't - pay attention. One dollar is closer to one hundred fifty billion dollars than eight hundred billion is to one trillion.
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Stop supporting those that foment and preach socialism as an alternative. It is not.
Again, I challenge you to define socialism and then point to socialism in the package
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Do you want to hear a proven alternative? Let the people keep the money they honestly have earned by labor, (that include the so called rich, and the so called poor); do not reward those that haven't earned money with their effort in a honest manner. And above anything else, limit the entitlement and size of government in the life of people.
I know that's not what you want to hear, but now you can not say you haven't hear a "single alternative and positive proposal".
No tax cut has put a police officer on the beat; no tax cut has put a teacher in the classroom. You are spouting nonsense. I want to hear what your plan is, how it will get the economy out of this crisis.
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Click to Expand / Collapse  Quote originally posted by GrimJack ...
No tax cut has put a police officer on the beat; no tax cut has put a teacher in the classroom. You are spouting nonsense. I want to hear what your plan is, how it will get the economy out of this crisis.
Amen to that
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Amen to that
Misguided you are. No having even clear where you stand.
At one hand pretending to be concern of the imposed socialism that its invading this country at a monumental stride, and at other hand, accepting the "bamboozling" rhetoric of a self professed liberal and socialist. You are a puppet of the popular wind! Wherever it blows there you go.
Do you really believe that allowing you to keep more of what you make somehow it's going to eliminate policemen on the street or teachers in the classroom? Do you really believe that reducing government in the life of people and making it subject to accountability is harmful to you and yours?
Do you accept that your government is doing a good job, and that billions before and over a trillion dollars now it is an acceptable price tag?
Why don't you sign your pay check away and let the institution "manage it" for you? Because you're not a fool, but rather a misguided one.
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>>At one hand pretending to be concern of the imposed socialism that its invading this country at a monumental stride

Yes I am concerned about it, but what are the alternatives? You mentioned one in a single sentence. That has been tried several times before and didn't produce desired or lasting results.

>>Wherever it blows there you go
Quite possibly

>>Do you really believe that reducing government in the life of people

Deregulation is what got is into this mess. People with power just can't be trusted to do the right thing, they have to be watched like a hawk. Unfortunate, but true.

>>and making it subject to accountability
Obama is trying to fix that too. Bush spent $350Billion with no accountability and we now have not a single thing for all that money.
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Aia is not even able to define his terms - most of his rants are pretty much 'ditto-head' mouthings from Rush and/or BillieO.

Do you really believe that allowing you to keep more of what you make somehow it's going to eliminate policemen on the street or teachers in the classroom? This question shows that he unable comprehend my statement - No tax cut has put a police officer on the beat; no tax cut has put a teacher in the classroom.
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I think of Barack Obama as a modern day Abe Lincoln!

As to Republican taxcuts, what are all those unemployed folks going to do with a taxcut?
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Is that a joke? If anything, Obama will DESTROY America. He's a manipulative socialist *******...

Obama will expand government every chance he gets. He will use our current economic recession to his advantage much in the way that Adolf Hitler did in the 30s. He will destroy our economy, ruin our overseas reputation, destroy our alliances, and ultimately kill the American way-of-life as we know it.
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If your Bush style American way-of-life is huge unemployment, you can have it for yourself.
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