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Well, Beck has really gone off the deep end lately so I wouldn't pay much attention anything he was screaming at this point.


Who the hell is this Beck and why are you talking about him?
I can guess, that probably has something to do my use of the socialist word. Which somehow it always triggers a nonsense association with some radio or tv dude that I am supposed to be subscribed to, just because I don't believe in socialism; and as far as I can see it appears that a great portion of their audience are you, liberals.

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That would be Glenn Beck and GrimJack brought him up.

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That would be Glenn Beck and GrimJack brought him up.


Ah, thank you. I don't care to read what GrimJack has to say, but it fits with his typical style. While the full name sounds familiar somehow, I would not doubt it is one of Mr. GrimJack's favorites right-wing chip-on-the-shoulder.

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Got to agree though, there are some people here who make more on the dole (social security) than if they actually got a job... so no incentive tio work... maybe we need to get tougher on these people...

Its about 6.5% here.

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I had nut-job Beck stupidity like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM4xqnukQrM&feature=related and this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex695VSHmSs&feature=related more in mind... Loser is still apt though.

Well, Fox News has their own brand of news. Consider it divertissement for the numb-nuts.

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>So the US has a long way to go! It'll take not very long to get there if the same socialist policies that are much to blame in Europe for the unemployment rates, continue to be adopted by Congress.

Actually, most European countries have much better looking numbers than the USA.

California's unemployment number just jumped to 11.2%.

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Got to agree though, there are some people here who make more on the dole (social security) than if they actually got a job... so no incentive tio work... maybe we need to get tougher on these people...

Its about 6.5% here.

Small language conflict here, Social Security in the USA is the rather meager old folks pension and has little to do with freeloading. Strange that they call the "dole" in Britain "social security".

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>California's unemployment number just jumped to 11.2%.
California could be a country in is own right, comparable to some nations in Europe; capital and population wise. California is one of the most socialist state in USA, perhaps only second to New York. See the results.

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Small language conflict here, Social Security in the USA is the rather meager old folks pension and has little to do with freeloading. Strange that they call the "dole" in Britain "social security".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobseeker%27s_Allowance

"The Dole, is a form of unemployment benefit that is paid by the government to people who are unemployed and seeking work. it is part of the social security benefits system"

"Social security primarily refers to a social insurance program providing social protection, or protection against socially recognized conditions, including poverty, old age, disability, unemployment and others."

So i am correct.

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>California's unemployment number just jumped to 11.2%. California could be a country in is own right, comparable to some nations in Europe; capital and population wise. California is one of the most socialist state in USA, perhaps only second to New York. See the results.

California is communist, isn't it? For that reason, such numbers.

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>California is communist, isn't it? For that reason, such numbers.
Nope, California is not communist; that's Cuba. While socialism and communism are brothers of the same mother, their fathers are different.

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From the US Bureau of Labor Statistics, somewhat sobering ...

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California is communist, isn't it? For that reason, such numbers.

The Governor of California is Arnold Alois Schwarzenegger a Republican. He would hardly agree with such nonsense!

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobseeker%27s_Allowance

"The Dole, is a form of unemployment benefit that is paid by the government to people who are unemployed and seeking work. it is part of the social security benefits system"

"Social security primarily refers to a social insurance program providing social protection, or protection against socially recognized conditions, including poverty, old age, disability, unemployment and others."

So i am correct.

So you are correct for the country in which you live; here in the US, Social Security is a separate system than Unemployment than Medicare than welfare. There is no overall 'dole' that covers all societies ills.

Social Security and MediCare are paid through a specific Federal income tax by both employer and employee (the self-employed are both);
Unemployment is paid by employers into state/federal coffers (FUTA);
Welfare is paid out of the general tax fund.

This is not to say that SS and Medicare funds are separate - they are added into the general fund.

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I had nut-job Beck stupidity like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM4xqnukQrM&feature=related and this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex695VSHmSs&feature=related more in mind... Loser is still apt though.

I don't normally like Morning Joe but this segment really cracked me up -- it is the same stuff as you posted but analyzed by the 'near right' staff. Joe just can't keep it straight.

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finally you guys can play this song with me .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3X5XuGTQzc

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Nope, California is not communist; that's Cuba. While socialism and communism are brothers of the same mother, their fathers are different.


[offtopic]
you guys really hating the communist politics isn't it ?
As I see it's right and not right.me'sa also from a independent country in asia , but the difference is we never going to mess with
them.
[/offtopic]

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From the US Bureau of Labor Statistics, somewhat sobering ...

Looks like the curve is mildly exponential in nature, reflecting the fact that unemployment creates unemployment. I should go out and buy a Hummer to help GM.

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Looks like the curve is mildly exponential in nature, reflecting the fact that unemployment creates unemployment. I should go out and buy a Hummer to help GM.


True , this is known as the cycle of poverty. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycle_of_poverty

Yes you are correct it's mathematically exponential but under some
assumptions. If that assumptions are true in some economic domain
then that's the end of that economic domain. However I'm not a
economy Σxpert.

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The american car industry has only got itself to blame. all its cars pale in comparison to similar german or japanese models. Its just like what happened to the britsh car industry in the last 30 years (its prettymuch dissapeared totally now)

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