19 of the hijackers were muslim. But think what you want Mr. always right cultural history boy.

Asif, Server_crash, Islam, Christianity, and Judaism all pray to the same god. Islam and Christianity are both offshoots of Judaism in fact, with Islam being hundreds of years younger.
In fact, Islam is now (at an intellectual and spiritual level) where Christianity was during the Crusades (so the early to mid middle ages in Europe, around 700-800 years ago) and Judaism was somewhere around 2000-2500 years ago.

All 3 are heavily fractured, and suffer from severe infighting among these factions/sects (which makes them less dangerous to the outside world because a lot of effort is spent in killing each other which would otherwise be directed in joint efforts to kill people adhering to other (or no) religion.

Well jwenting, I believe in God and I dont want to kill you for believing differently. I respect your views, and in fact, enjoy reading about your views. Dont assume something like that about everybody.

All I want to say to the christians in here is - try not to directly attack people of different religions. While you may hold a strong view against their religion, its not wise to say things that directly attack another and are just going to provoke quarrels and give reason to unbelievers to slander all religion.

Also to a previous post by jwenting. No they don't all worship the same God. Christianity and Judaism do worship the same God (although the Jews didn't recognise Jesus as the Messiah) but Islam is most definately different. Islam is like an addon made up by a man later on down the track - after Christ. Personally I see Islam as divisive (creating confusion) and misleading (distracts away from Jesus) - because it takes from other religions and then adds (updates) on top of them. An addon that destroys the whole original message. I mean I could do the same and create a religion in the same way right now and claim that an Angel from God told me that I am the last of the last prophets and that the true message of God is completed through me. I could say that as the last of the last prophets only what I say is fully correct and that God told me to write the last parts of the Koran that were left out by Muhammad - and that this final revelation from God says that all Islam teaching while correct is missing one last bit - my bit. Then I could go on to make up whatever I wanted to.

You see the big difference between the way the Bible (Judaism and christianty) was written and the way the Koran (Islam) was wriiten is the Bible was written by many many different people over thousands of years all under the inspiration of the spirit of God. The Koran was received in alleged revelations from ONE man and scribed by others under Muhammads direction because Muhammad could neither read nor write himself. Now you tell me which has more credability - a book written soley from the revelations of ONE man and all in his lifetime or a book written from revelations of many many men over thousands of years (and it all fits together still regardless of the multiple authors and huge time gaps). Tell me is it easier for one man to LIE at one point in history or for many many men spread over thousands of years to all cooperate in a lie together?

Thats the difference between the 3 religions.

There should be and I believe there is a lot of doubt surrounding the revealtions of just one man. I don't believe the God of the Universe would leave His entire message in the hands of one individual. Having many of the same revelations coming from many individuals VALIDATES and CONFIRMS the message. I mean what happens if Muhammad was simply mad? There are no other prophets who can confirm Muhammads writings because he is the ONLY author of th eKoran - but the Bible has many many men (authors) who all agreed and their message was cohesive, complimenting each other. You see this proves and confirms the bible and that its above any one man. The Bible is put together by men who never knew each other - in some cases gaps of hundreds of years between them - yet the message still fits together. This proves its God who is the ulitmate author of the Bible.

Nicely put, bjdea1, but don't forget that a similar argument can be presented by those people who do not accept that Christ was, or is, the 'son of God'.

Forum discussions such as this one are all too easily waylaid by people who consider that any such discussion necessitates that they should 'stick up' for their particular Faith. When that happens, all too often comments become simply expressions of intolerance towards the views of others who have different beliefs. Such is not necessary, as a discussion like this should really only be scholarly or thoughful and considered discourse. There is no need for anyone to 'justify' their particular Faith in a forum discussion such as this, and it is unacceptable for people to expect that others need do that. DaniWeb is a global community, and the membership contains people from varied places and of varied Faiths. Here is not a suitable place to criticise or condemn others on the basis of their Faith.

Anyone who makes a statement to the effect of "I believe...." is perfectly justified in doing so. But by virtue of the fact that they have made such statement they should expect and accept that other people are going to disagree with their beliefs. But Faith is a personal thing, and if people here allow their comments to become, either explicitly or implicitly, "You should believe....." then they've stepped over the 'line'.

It frustrates me when I see people step over that 'line', because to date DaniWeb has been a place where open discussion has been courteous, friendly and lively. Should topics relating to Religion regularly become simply conflicts, we'd need to look at the possibility of disallowing such content. If discussion here is allowed to continue in a divisive manner, then such discussions do little but harm the sense of community which has been encouraged and nurtured here at DaniWeb.

Be careful with your comments, please people. No matter how strongly your personal conviction in your Faith may be, there are others who disagree with you. They also have the right to hold their own beliefs!

^ yes agreed. I should say "I believe" more often.

You're wrong bj. They DO pray to the same god. Jesus, in case you're wondering, is NOT god (despite being portrayed as such incorrectly by many American church groups).
If you think Jesus is god you're the one who is gravely wrong in your belief system.

You obviously also don't understand the first thing about Islam. Islam sees Jesus as second only to Muhammed as the greatest prophets of god (whom they call Allah and the Jews call Jahweh which Christians often pronounce as Jehovah).
Islam also recognises the bible as one of their holy books next to the q'uran and I think the torah as well.

I'd rather believe as being accurate the sayings of a single person penned down by a scribe during that person's life than the ramblings of a thousand people combined and translated (with all the resulting errors) dozens if not hundreds of years later after being passed on by word of mouth (with the resulting errors and interpretations).

As it is I don't hold either account to be factual or accurate. The bible to me reads like a soap opera more often than not and an allegorical story most of the rest of the time.
There are blatant inconsistencies between the books, if it's so accurate how do you explain those?

Hello all. I do admit that many Christians have said a lot of bad things about other religions. You can see the result of this in previous posts. The church has not been doing its job(unfortunatley). But I've been guilty of lashing out before.

Just to say it: I AM A CHRISTIAN!!!! Not ashamed of it!! Why? You might ask. Well lets just say I have found God's word through the Bible to be true in everyday life. I've seen healings and restorations and demons cast out of people and all that kind of stuff it says we're supposed to do all of the time in the Bible. I cannot feed you other people's stories, but just to share one of my own:

I was diagnosed with keratoconus, a rare eye disease, the scan was conclusive, but the eye doctor wanted me to come back the following week to get a different scan that also measured depth, to determine if she should do surgery or not. I got prayer at church and youth group, the time came around for the scan, and it was gone. i held in my hands two pictures of medical scans. The geometry of my eye had changed!!! I believe that deserves a Praise God!!! I believe in the power of the name of Jesus. Anybody have questions? Just ask!!

We could talk about evolution vs. creation, but it normally ends up in the same spot.

thanks for listening (or is it reading?)

slackwarebilly

Most non-believers think people of religion are perfect and should never make mistakes. Just because you belong to a religion doesn't mean that you won't ever say stuff that will make people mad, or do things your not suppose to.