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sknake> I see that you have not served in the armed forces which is probably for the best.
Ignorant! You know nothing about me.
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sknake> I see that you have not served in the armed forces which is probably for the best.
Ignorant! You know nothing about me.
See, this is why I quit talking to you, because you are incapable of holding a conversation without insults and name calling.
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sknake> I see that you have not served in the armed forces which is probably for the best.
Ignorant! You know nothing about me.
Was I wrong?
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Was I wrong?
Yes, you were wrong.
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Why the hell is anyone replying still? There isn't even an "argument" to advance or defend, anymore.

It's all useless mud being flung in here.
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See, this is why I quit talking to you, because you are incapable of holding a conversation without insults and name calling.
I do not miss your talk. In fact it is a shame you have to break your streak of not replying here, just to let me know.
What you perceived as an insult is nothing more than the use of the right word for the right meaning.
Continue reading from the side line and don't derail the topic as you like to do.
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[in response to PetuniaRose's metaphor sknake wrote]
If you find yourself in that situation then go ahead and walk in the quicksand. You could also argue that since he would be in front of you leading the group that he would perish before you came to the quicksand thus you didn't have to follow him anymore. A stupid counterpoint to a retarded argument. We're not talking about the blind leading the blind.
Out of all you wrote this is the bit I find interesting. While no metaphor or analogy can hold its own if we decide to extended it beyond the quick intended meaning, I believe this one still will keep true if I would apply it to our reality. Which is this: Any of those so called leaders would send you first in the line, ahead of them.
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I do not miss your talk. In fact it is a shame you have to break your streak of not replying here, just to let me know.
What you perceived as an insult is nothing more than the use of the right word for the right meaning.
Continue reading from the side line and don't derail the topic as you like to do.
Mate, I thought I could be both cranky and argumentative at the moment (severe back pain will do that to a person), but you really take the cake. The wonderful thing about a democratic society is the freedom to have one's own ideas and opinions.

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Ignorant! You know nothing about me.
Have to say your comments here prove beyond a shadow of a doubt your utter ignorance! This post was intended to spark an intellectual debate, and all you have done is convert that into some spiteful mud-sling, abusing those who don't share your opinions. If you don't have the mental faculties to debate a subject without all the juvenile prattle, then go over to your corner and sulk quietly, and leave the conversation to the adults!!
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kaninelupus> I always laugh when the Yanks go on about democracy, when:

I always wonder of laughing none-yanks with high opinion of themselves. Ready to express their opinion, showing everyone how well informed they are.
It seems of all the posters, you yourself have done a better job of that than anyone else (not the high level of sarcasm)!

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kaninelupus> A good chunk of your population never votes... they just b1tch about things when the elected govt doesn't cater to their whims

What an astonishing revelation it would have been, if it were not for the little "inconvenience" that it is just your own speculation. Nonetheless, let me increase your extensive knowledge of the form and behavior of the people of this land in political matters.
Opposite to other forms of government, the freedom of voting or not, doesn't hinder their right to bitch at any time. That right is obtained by paying taxes.
According to statistics compiled off your own Bureau of Statistics, 58% of the eligible voting population actually voted. So unlike you, I rely on facts not blind speculation!!

" That right is obtained by paying taxes." What utter CRAP!! Even citizens of Communist states pay taxes in one form or another. The right to b1tch and whine is NOT earned by simply paying taxes, but by involving oneself in the democratic process... ie, VOTING. If one does not wish to involve themselves in the process of electing a political leader they have NO right to then b1tch and whine when either the leader elected is not to their liking, or things don't go their way... PERIOD!!

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kaninelupus> You have a system where-by, no matter how well a president does his job, he cannot serve more than 2 terms

I know! Incredible, isn't it? It should be only six months, but I suppose that due to the cost of campaigns we had to go for a compromise. We don't like dictators no matter how well they do.
Ummm.... how is retaining an excellent president/prime minister, who brings prosperity and economic stability to a country, even remotely equate to dictatorship? Dictatorships only exist where the population cannot remove an ineffective leader! Do we need to buy you a dictionary?

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kaninelupus> ... almost NO other nation has this system
That's why we are The United States of America, and not The Generic League of Countries in One State.
Yup, and no matter how much your political system is in the crappers, ppl like you will still declare how much you are better you are than every non-American! God save us!!

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kaninelupus> On top of that, despite the state of things in your country, your govt is forever telling other countries how they should operate!

Other countries don't think of that when they come asking for helping money.

Well given the way your country at one minute funds the terrorists (both Bin Laden and Saddam Hussain), then bombs the crap out of their country when partnership no longer suits them, don't you think those countries have the innate RIGHT to expect your country to shell out to clean up the mess??


As I said before, if you don't have the intellectual capacity to maturely interact within an adult conversation, go to the corner and sulk quietly!!
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kaninelupus> According to statistics compiled off your own Bureau of Statistics, 58% of the eligible voting population actually voted.

If I take those results as authoritative, almost 60% of a population of a quarter of billion is not a small representation at all, considering that we are not forced to vote like in some other form of government, and the remainder %40 which does not vote are exercising their right to not do so. Still even if only 15% or less vote your comments are still speculative since there's no way for you to know that people which do not vote and those which complains are the same people.

I am afraid I am going to have to quote this whole epic failure from kaninelupus
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That right is obtained by paying taxes." What utter CRAP!! Even citizens of Communist states pay taxes in one form or another. The right to b1tch and whine is NOT earned by simply paying taxes, but by involving oneself in the democratic process... ie, VOTING. If one does not wish to involve themselves in the process of electing a political leader they have NO right to then b1tch and whine when either the leader elected is not to their liking, or things don't go their way... PERIOD!!
PERIOD? Don't you wish.
In this Land things are different of what your personal philosophy thinks the rest of the World should abide by.
We believe in "No taxation without representation."

I am going to ignore the rest of the blah-blah, italics and bold writing directed to my alias.
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