I know Windows is awful. Everyone knows Windows is awful. Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it’s there, and there’s nothing you can do about it. OK, OK: I know other operating systems are available. But their advocates seem even creepier, snootier and more insistent than Mac owners. The harder they try to convince me, the more I’m repelled. To them, I’m a sheep. And they’re right. I’m a helpless, stupid, lazy sheep. I’m also a masochist. And that’s why I continue to use Windows – horrible Windows – even though I hate every second of it. It’s grim, it’s slow, everything’s badly designed and nothing really works properly: using Windows is like living in a communist bloc nation circa 1981. And I wouldn’t change it for the world, because I’m an abject bloody idiot and I hate myself, and this is what I deserve: to be sentenced to Windows for life.
Charlie Brooker has a way with words.

I would have thought you would have quoted someone closer to your own, cold climate, rather than someone in my part of the world. Too many juicy bits to tell and not enough time.

That would assume that the Ontario Provincial Police knew what a computer was.So basically you are talking crap, like we thought for 99% of this thread.
Slight contradiction of yourself there.
Hum, quote killed the context - what I said was that there wasn't any exploits on the IPhone, and then that exploits were fixed quickly, which is of course why there aren't any exploits.

Xan thinks that the fact that there have been exploits means I'm full of bovine by-product.

You could take it either way, but I prefer my take (of course).Again, talking crap...
Apple ARENT for it. They think thier own H.264 codec is much better but HTML5 will use OGG (vorbis/theora), which has pretty poor compatibility with windows (indeed the only browser currently support HTML5 tags is FF3.5)
Now you are getting into some real fun stuff. H.264 may be better, but it's patent encumbered, and unless the U.S. Supreme Court decides that software cannot be patented, H.264 cannot be used by Free or Open Source Software in the Excited States of Hamerica. It can be used legally in Canada and other countries where software cannot be patented.

As to Ogg's reputed incompatibility with Windows, I first used Ogg on Windows, so it's not "incompatible." What's lacking is browser support, which could be added easily (Konqueror supports Ogg, and WebKit, the base of Safari and Chrome is a Konqueror derivative). So basically everything except Internet Exploder could be modified to support it quickly, and since Google released the Chrome Plugin for Internet Exploder, it would be able to support it too, which Microsoft will not appreciate. For a good articles on Standards Support in IE see here and here . It appears that Google's Plugin may be the best thing to happen to Internet Exploder ever.

The reason that Apple, Google, etc. are nervous about Ogg is that while the designer has released it's patents for use in Ogg, it's always possible that a third party could claim it infringes their patents after Ogg has been implemented in Safari and Chrome. Both Google and Apple have money, making them juicy targets for a patent infringement lawsuit. The Mozilla Foundation doesn't have any money, so no patent holder would bother with them.

Again, it all comes down to the SCOTUS ruling. Because the U.S., even in it's current debilitated state consumes such a large proportion of software and hardware, it's legal system tends to have an over sized effect on software and hardware in the rest of the world.

However as crazy as the U.S. is, at least they aren't crazy enough to try and implement something like the Great Firewall and Blocklist of Australia .

I love how when someone disagrees with you you just ignore thier point entirely (e.g #41, #75, #100, #106, #108)

and you can legally use H.264 on linux by obtaining a licenced codec - you can do by purchacing the codec pack from Fluendo. This also enables you to legally watch copy protected DVDs in the US.

I don't need to buy it - I live in Canada, where software patents aren't legal. The H.264 licensing depends upon software patents, and if you live in a country where software patents don't exist, there is no need to purchase a license.

Miro and Videolan both have good implementations of the H.264 codec, which are legal for use in Canada (and come in Windows, Mac, and Linux versions). Of course there's nothing stopping you from downloading them in the U.S., and if you have Windows on your computer, you already have paid for the codecs. You should try them, they are both pretty good.

Now what precisely was the point that you believe I missed?

Okay i have just finished reading the whole thread... And i noticed something you said:

Wow, it was bad back then?! Woop Dee Doo. Things get upgraded, you would know that. I used Ubuntu on and off over the past few years. It got better as it was upgraded, lots better. Still every time i went back to windows because you know what? I could double click on a setup and have it work. I didnt have to go to the repositries, make sure i have all of the setup packages. And in the end i could find all the tools i needed on windows.

So if Ubuntu gets lots better with releases, why wouldn't windows? I am still using XP and it works really well, i never have driver issues, crashes, or anything that i cant fix in 10 minutes or less.

So if you havent used windows properly since 3.1 you really should be getting yourself a bit more educated. Its like me saying the latest ferarri has terrible handling and i hated it and its fuel economy. But seeing i am not old enough to drive i obviously don't know this first hand. All you are feeding us and news posts and "I think windows sucks because..." yeah sure opinion is great, but let it be educated.

It was Works that I dropped back then, not Windows. I've used every version of Windows from 3.0 to ME (on the DOS side) and from NT 3.5 to XP on the NT side. I've also used GEOS, GEM, OS2, Solaris, OSX, OS9, BSD, Linux, and the XP clone who's name I can't remember.

Yes, Works has probably improved, but I never did go back to look, and now it doesn't exist anymore.

if you havent tried vista or windows7 you arent in a position to talk about the good and bad points of windows vs other systems...

Exactly, things have changed. Once you have educated yourself, then you can start arguments.

Remember Scottie's line in the original series episode "Friday's Child", Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me. I'm not going back to Windows. In fact I was a real fool, because after Windows 95, I used Windows 98, and ME, and NT 3.5, NT 4.0, Win2K, and XP. all of which was pretty damned foolish, because the only one that worked at all well, was Win2K, and it was limited.

So, no. I'm no trying Vista or Vista Seven.

Then there it no point trying to preach your ideas to us because your ideas are outdated.

So stop your trolling.

Lol. Soo much irony.

http://www.mac-sucks.com/switch_why.php

[professional googler/internets troller]

http://themacsucks.com/

OK, so Crunchie and PaulThom think I should let myself get screwed again by a company that I have zero respect for, just to make them happy. NOT.

And yeah, Mac's aren't perfect. However I've never had my MacBook crash once in two years of heavy use, and it's been all over North America during that time. So, yeah, I'm pretty happy with it. As they say, it just works.

And it's the same with the computers I have Linux installed on, they just keep running.

Oh, both OSX and Linux need updating regularly, just like Windows. But that's not a big deal.

And with Linux, it's even possible to pull and entire OS upgrade just by clicking on one button, and leaving it overnight. You can't do that with Windows or OSX (of course not - they can't make any money off you that way).

Here's a link that you'll find amusing - Small Businesses Should Bank Securely – And That Means Linux: Wired via the Washington Post