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I got a Ford Focus right now ~30mpg. I landed a job really close to home in January. I now drive 2 miles one way to work. With all my driving, I fill up once a month. The current gas prices hardly phase me.
Wow. That's awesome!

I had a friend in Dallas, TX who said that before all of this gas hike happened, he was paying something crazy like $.19/gal. He said that one day, the local gas station gave out free gas. Don't know how accurate that is...
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I can't wait to get bush out of office. I would be money that the main reason gas prices haven't gone down or we haven't found other fuel sources is because he has his hands in the oil stocks.

Then again, i could just be being ignorant.
Bush and his cronies certainly are not environmentally conscious and have done a pretty good job of playing ostrich in those regards, but this problem was there well before they got into office.

Alternative materials for crude oil have been around since WWII, the Germans developed a synthetic oil due to the shortage that was hindering them.

One of the best alternatives that I can see is the use of the hydrogen fuel cell. They are developing techniques to produce hydrogen without using fossil fuels, once they can do this we will have a real winner.
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Someone mentioned ethanol as an alternative fuel source up in another post.

Again, this is a misconception. While ethanol can be used as a fuel additive instead of gasoline, ethanol is not energy efficient. It takes more energy put in through processing then it produces. In nearly every case, this energy put in comes from fossil fuels.

True alternative sources are an extract from sugarcane (which the U.S. isn't currently looking at because of the problems with Chávez in Brazil (where most sugarcane is grown)). Solar power and wind energy are also good alternatives.

What our country needs as a whole is a grassroots rebellion geared on energy change.

Edit: Hydrogen cells are also an excellent alternative.
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FFS. All we need is a grassroots rebellion based on government nonintervention in the energy market. The reason fuel is so expensive (haha, it's actually absurdly cheap) is that demand is up and supply is down. And demand will continue to rise dramatically, and supply will continue to be unpredictable. If you want economically efficient fuels, vote for some free market person. Heck, even vote for a free market person that believes in welfare, just somebody that doesn't believe in protectionism and subsidies.

Then you'll get energy as cheap as it can get. And you'll find out which is most economically efficient. Without having to think about it!

If you want to get really excited, add taxes on top of that to account for damage to the environment. You can never calculate those precisely (and they'll probably be calculated very imprecisely).

And solar and wind energy suck. Or you'd be seeing more of it, nyes?
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I got a Ford Focus right now ~30mpg. I landed a job really close to home in January. I now drive 2 miles one way to work. With all my driving, I fill up once a month. The current gas prices hardly phase me.
While the mileage is nice, I find it odd that people are still impressed by these numbers (myself included). My first car was an '86 Toyota Tercel station wagon, definitely past broken in, and I got about 25-30 in it. All my cars so far have gotten about 25-30 (well... I'm not sure on the new one, I've only put gas in it once so I don't know the mileage yet...). You'd think that if we had such mileage 20+ years ago that we'd have more efficient cars, like hybrids or diesel engines (which I hear also get great mileage), everywhere by now.
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>You can hardly say that Americans dont have it easy as far as many things are concerned.
True, but I can say that you're generalizing and stereotyping based on your own misunderstood assumptions about "Americans".
Just as the rest of the world makes assumptions about my country based on accent alone.
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>Just as the rest of the world makes assumptions about my country based on accent alone.
So maybe you should temper your opinions rather than propagate the very cultural bias that (it sounds like) you disapprove of.
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is this just for the USA or worldwide cause i live in canada so im not sure if this affects us as well`
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By the way...anyone want to buy a bridge????
Depends. What's the selling price, what's the location, and does it come with its own troll or do I have to provide that?
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>Just as the rest of the world makes assumptions about my country based on accent alone.
So maybe you should temper your opinions rather than propagate the very cultural bias that (it sounds like) you disapprove of.
Why? The internet is a free space after all. And I don't disapprove of it, you would be amazed how often saying "balaclava" can get you a seat on the train, so it comes in handy. My point was that you may say I am making a generalisation, but everyone does exactly the same, its a fact of life.
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