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Re: Man ordered not to have a girlfriend for the next three years

That would be debatable.
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I do not think that people are born with any rights rather they are something presented to you and maintained by the system that you live in. I think instinct i probably closer to what you meant by natural rights.
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I think many Christians would disagree.. some people believe that humans posses natural rights which were derived from God.
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Do people not have the right to live? The right to food and water and air? This could sooo easily turn into a conversation about capital punishment and abortion but I'd much rather not go there.
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Do people not have the right to live? The right to food and water and air? This could sooo easily turn into a conversation about capital punishment and abortion but I'd much rather not go there.
Why not? Debate is good for the mind

What are your views on said issues?
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I think many Christians would disagree.. some people believe that humans posses natural rights which were derived from God.
Im a Christian and have never thought or heard anything of that sort. There are promises that God has made however i think that is a different to this concept of natural rights.

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Do people not have the right to live? The right to food and water and air?
Of course people have the right to live however i think the question is really if they are born or even conceived with this right or if it is something placed upon them by the society that they develop in.

Maybe im just thinking too deeply about the subject but i think although we have the right given different circumstances and socities then these things that we see as rights may not be. That includes things like living,water,food and air.
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Im a Christian and have never thought or heard anything of that sort. There are promises that God has made however i think that is a different to this concept of natural rights.
Yeah the only rights that I am aware of is the right for all men/women to learn, read and talk about the Bible. Which was rights given to Protestants from their 'split' from the false church of Rome.
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Why do people automatically have the right to live?
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because that is what is generally accepted by society. Hence why murder is against the law.
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This, I believe, is generally where most people get their argument from:

Quote originally posted by Thomas Jefferson in The Unanamious Declaration of the thirteen united States of America. ...
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.
It's interesting to note that most people (sadly, myself included most of the time) tend to stop there...let's see the rest of the preamble, shall we?

Quote originally posted by Thomas Jefferson in The Unanamious Declaration of the thirteen united States of America. ...
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
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