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Gays will all burn in eternal hellfire...
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I've looked over the site a bit; I'll admit what I've done is more skim than scan, but I've looked at some of it. I'll try to get more done over the coming weekend, or over the week if I discover extra free time; this is looking to be a possibility, although I cannot yet say how probable.

I do, however, have one question: In looking over the history listings, I saw that the CDC had the US definition of AIDS upgraded occasionally, but that appeared to be it. Has the African definition ever been upgraded, or are they still using the 1985 Bangui definition?
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@GrimJack:

I've looked over the site a bit; I'll admit what I've done is more skim than scan, but I've looked at some of it. I'll try to get more done over the coming weekend, or over the week if I discover extra free time; this is looking to be a possibility, although I cannot yet say how probable.

I do, however, have one question: In looking over the history listings, I saw that the CDC had the US definition of AIDS upgraded occasionally, but that appeared to be it. Has the African definition ever been upgraded, or are they still using the 1985 Bangui definition?
That is the WHO definition as of 1985 which updated a previous document produced in 1982. The definition of AIDS as a collection of symptoms as stated in the 'Bangui definition" called this because Bangui is the city in which the WHO, CDC, and other health organizations came together to develop a serveiling case definition of AIDS for use in countries where testing for HIV antibodies was not available. I imagine that as the cost and complexity of testing for the antibodies are reduced, reliance on the definition will also be reduced.

Thanks for the response - I went hunting (as I did not know the name of the definition so had to research it) and found this quote:
The first human known to be infected with HIV was a man from Kinshasa in the nearby country of Congo who had his blood stored in 1959 as part of a medical study, decades before scientists knew the AIDS virus existed.
If i.r.c. the blood tests were part of a inoculation program in the area - and I have vague recollections of problems with the program and somehow simian blood contaminated the vaccine and this might have been how SIV crossed species to become HIV. But this is vague recollection so don't hold me to it.
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Gays will all burn in eternal hellfire...
You are joking right? and not just a babbling idiot, I hope.
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You are joking right? and not just a babbling idiot, I hope.
Dare you refer to me as such things? You will burn in eternal hellfire as well!
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Okay, Okay - not a babbling idiot, (sometimes I think I am but then <in the background I am listening to Dave Attel on "the Best of Insomniac: Uncensored" in a head-banger club chanting "I am Satan, I am Satan" -- we don't have cable so we have to get our Comedy Central via netflix> er where was I - dang there is the theme song, "stay with me and you will see a late night freak-show jubilee")
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