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View Poll Results: It´s wrong to shoplift but is software different? - what´s your opinion?
It´s OK to copy software, the company is rich. 1 4.35%
It´s not OK to copy software, but I´ve done in on occasion. 8 34.78%
It´s not OK to copy software - those that do should be prosecuted. 5 21.74%
All software should be free. 5 21.74%
Never copy software - if the company goes bankrupt, they can´t write more programs that we like. 4 17.39%
Voters: 23. You may not vote on this poll

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Which statements are these?
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If people want to have a private discussion about an unrelated topic, please do so via PM. If people wish to discuss a clearly unrelated topic, please do so in a thread of its own.


Let's get back to discussing Software Piracy shall we?
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Sorry about the off topic discussion..

Quote originally posted by server_crash ...
Death penalty for smaller offenses is exactly what we need
We cant't exagerate though...
Quote originally posted by zeroth ...
Pretty hard to electrocute somebody for having a bootleg copy of Windows, no?:eek:
zeroth, I think the same way...
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Quote originally posted by Catweazle ...
Let's get back to discussing Software Piracy shall we?
Well, the poll is closed. Not that many voters but the results show what I suspected would be the case. Most of us believe that using illicit copies of software is wrong. And most of those have used such copies in their careers. I suspect this would be true in a much larger cross section of computer users.

Another opinion of the state of the industry did come to light and this was that piracy has caused many software companies to try and protect their products by including devices to protect the software that make it hard to use. One example is the difficulty in making backup copies of useful software.

A third opinion that I share is that making evaluation software available is a good thing. You can use it until you are sure that it is going to be something that will help you in the long run and then purchase the product and get support.

Thanks to all for participating in this thread.
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Quote originally posted by zeroth ...
Pretty hard to electrocute somebody for having a bootleg copy of Windows, no?:eek:
no harder than to electrocute them for whatever else.
Technically that is :mrgreen:

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Having someone executed by death penalty is more expensive than keeping him in prison doesn't it? I mean, all the procedures in court and everything cost a lot!! You don't just apply death penalty to someone because you want to....
That depends on
1) how long the person would otherwise be in prison
2) how many delaying actions you allow. Arrest at noon, convict at sunset, execute at dawn. Quick, saves on cells, and reduces the demand for lawyers

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They don't just buy a bullet and kill these people.
Maybe not in the US. In China they bill the family or relatives of the convict the bullet, reducing the cost even more.

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A third opinion that I share is that making evaluation software available is a good thing. You can use it until you are sure that it is going to be something that will help you in the long run and then purchase the product and get support.
Evaluation versions are a good thing and might stop some people from using a pirated version.
BUT it would not stop most and it has been shown time and again that most evaluation versions are very easy to crack and remove the limitations on their use (thus effectively making piracy easier and increasing the likelihood of it happening).
Case in point: I once got an evaluation version of DBase 5 (I think it was) that had a 30 day limit on it. Took maybe 10 minutes to figure out how that was implemented, would have taken me maybe 10 seconds after that to remove the protection.
Now, there are better schemes out there, but for someone with the right tools they're all easy to subvert. The only alternative is to make an entirely separate product for the eval version (so don't just set a global boolean to indicate it's an eval version for example but a separate codebase), something that's hiddeously expensive.
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rofl slightly offtopic, but someone gave me a minus reputation point from this thread Oo
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Quote originally posted by Cup of Squirrel ...
rofl slightly offtopic, but someone gave me a minus reputation point from this thread Oo

How do you check? I know I've got some negative rep the past few days!
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

I just looked and I've recieved one neg rep point for this because what I said was unnessasary(spelling)...Then I got one for another thread that says, servercrash was harsh and arrogant....muahhahahahhahah I love this rep thing.
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I've had two minus rep on the 22nd of april for no reason in a word game... these rep arent used properly thats for sure...

It seems like nobody has got anything else to say about piracy...
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Quote originally posted by belama ...
I've had two minus rep on the 22nd of april for no reason in a word game... these rep arent used properly thats for sure...

It seems like nobody has got anything else to say about piracy...
I'll give you some positive rep. It's funny but stupid how some people are treating this. It's like, people don't understand that when your in a debate, you argue with people.
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