yeah and im a Visual Basic programmer so i know how that goes too but most of the ppl i talk to jst make fun of me but its not actually be mean or anything its jst for fun which i dont mind thats they way most of the guys are at linuxforums.org well my fellow mods there anyway. there are alot of ppl that are really cool and then there are those others that really jst piss you off. i have stopped argueing with alot of the ppl to its jst gets way to sickining

edit: i really like the idea of a new computer with a year of free internet

Well, to be honest with you, I'm starting to question your professors credentials.
I mean you say he knows alot about security, and he suggest/forces you to use a broke OS. If he knew anything about security beyond post grad level, he would be talking about finite state machines. While he is prolly using that weak OS called linux. Other, MORE educated security driven people, like myself use KSOS, running a collection of various project software from a NeXTStep inspired GUI to multi level secure aware NFS, HTTP, FTP, and SMTP servers all on PDP 11/70 emulation on a 21364 system. Why? Because I like running an OS designed by Ford and I like having a system that is theoretically secure from remote attacks (ah the beauty of finite state machines) makes for good bragging rights...

So, to be honest with you,he still has wool pulled over your eyes. Professor "X" is a joke in the security world, speaking on behalf of the security folks. Perhaps he should sign up and defend his credentials that now I am questioning, through hearsay. Like I said you don't learn anything till the master level.

I have taken a decisions science class,and I work with people who have played developmental and auditing roles in several operating systems as well as OS feasibility studies. After all is said and done, where are the fatcs? It's very hard for linus to provide and display facts, that's a fact. I would have made the decision to call him out on that one.


Ummmmmmmmmmmmm, maybe cause he can't tell you and the class, or maybe cause you did not challenge him & ask?

I'm telling you right now he might be able to say that to 19-24 y/o students, but he would'nt dare to preach that at any of the seminars I attened! Talking about a laughing stock.



Speaking of laughing stock's....John Kerry, aKa "Flip flop John" this guy will cut military funding just like he did in the past. Do I need to rattle off a list of things he cut? Nanotechnology surely means noting to him. Ohhh, the odds are stacked so high.

I agree with you here. Personally, I think their decisions arise from ego. Simple as that. I also go to quite a few seminars and shows (IBM, Macromedia, and Microsoft), and if some ignorant person uttered such stupidity, they'd get crucified.

I don't see why they she/he, would have a ego, based on linux security? I'm with you, simply put, it blow's my mind.No need for futher investigation. After that it's a laughing matter.

You speak of "EGO" & your right,So much of modern computing is based on ego, it is just tragic. People need to get over themselves, stop trying to reinvent the wheel, take a realistic look at the products around them and take it from there!
I don't tend such seminars, the ones I attend associate with DARPA(Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency) & the likes.

It's just now, in my lifetime/career that I'm realizing that people/programmers are reinventing the wheel, tovalds for example.

"POset confuses me, and since I am the smartest person on earth, it must be bad so I'll leave it out." "I don't know how to make a microkernel so rather than creating something new, I'll use UN*X style system calls which create a performance hit against microkernels so I have an excuse to not use one I'll and end up with a dumbed down version of an operating system that didn't need a dumbed down version." "I am the king of the universe, so I can just do all my projects myself, mature development models are for those stuffy corporate losers." etc, etc.. :lol:

Speaking of professor "X", he should check out KSOS or LOCK to see what a real contender in the most secure OS catagory is.... not that broke OS called linux. :lol:


But ,always a but.......I was taking a look at your home page, I read the following, You were joking right?

Nope. Prove me wrong. I'm 101% confident that if we took a wordly poll, they would agree with me. You might throw every reason in the world at me why you disagree, but you're just one person. However, I know you're probably as eager to "let me have it," so why don't you start with the second sentence, which was:

Nah,not eager.....realz, Iäm just curious about the comment. (<----German, inside joke between me & sicssa) sorry about that thread I couln't find the delete tab.

Ok, in your and the worlds view why is linux the champat serving, that's all not to prove you wrong and what not?( just trying to get some facts)
That would be the best approach instead of a**uming right?

I'd like to start by saying now that Apache finally has a production level (more or lesee anyhow) multi-threaded version of their server(2.x) I have no real complaints about it, that goes for IIS aswell.

But should all fortune 500 companies like wal-mart sam's ect... & all users switch to linux for serving in genral, just because. Not that you said that

"Proving you wrong" if you are reffering to linux/ serving security, that would be too easy.

If you are reffeing to uptimes of home users/mom & pop servers or whatnot, what I were to say that I hjave IIS uptimes well over 520 days now, & what if I were to say that those machines don't even have fans in them, but are still air cooled. Would you be impresses at all with windows serving?