Which statements are these?
server_crash
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If people want to have a private discussion about an unrelated topic, please do so via PM. If people wish to discuss a clearly unrelated topic, please do so in a thread of its own.
Let's get back to discussing Software Piracy shall we?
Catweazle
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Let's get back to discussing Software Piracy shall we?
Well, the poll is closed. Not that many voters but the results show what I suspected would be the case. Most of us believe that using illicit copies of software is wrong. And most of those have used such copies in their careers. I suspect this would be true in a much larger cross section of computer users.
Another opinion of the state of the industry did come to light and this was that piracy has caused many software companies to try and protect their products by including devices to protect the software that make it hard to use. One example is the difficulty in making backup copies of useful software.
A third opinion that I share is that making evaluation software available is a good thing. You can use it until you are sure that it is going to be something that will help you in the long run and then purchase the product and get support.
Thanks to all for participating in this thread.
zeroth
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Pretty hard to electrocute somebody for having a bootleg copy of Windows, no?:eek:
no harder than to electrocute them for whatever else.
Technically that is :mrgreen:Having someone executed by death penalty is more expensive than keeping him in prison doesn't it? I mean, all the procedures in court and everything cost a lot!! You don't just apply death penalty to someone because you want to....
That depends on
1) how long the person would otherwise be in prison
2) how many delaying actions you allow. Arrest at noon, convict at sunset, execute at dawn. Quick, saves on cells, and reduces the demand for lawyers :cool:They don't just buy a bullet and kill these people.
Maybe not in the US. In China they bill the family or relatives of the convict the bullet, reducing the cost even more.A third opinion that I share is that making evaluation software available is a good thing. You can use it until you are sure that it is going to be something that will help you in the long run and then purchase the product and get support.
Evaluation versions are a good thing and might stop some people from using a pirated version.
BUT it would not stop most and it has been shown time and again that most evaluation versions are very easy to crack and remove the limitations on their use (thus effectively making piracy easier and increasing the likelihood of it happening).
Case in point: I once got an evaluation version of DBase 5 (I think it was) that had a 30 day limit on it. Took maybe 10 minutes to figure out how that was implemented, would have taken me maybe 10 seconds after that to remove the protection.
Now, there are better schemes out there, but for someone with the right tools they're all easy to subvert. The only alternative is to make an entirely separate product for the eval version (so don't just set a global boolean to indicate it's an eval version for example but a separate codebase), something that's hiddeously expensive.
jwenting
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rofl slightly offtopic, but someone gave me a minus reputation point from this thread Oo
How do you check? I know I've got some negative rep the past few days!
server_crash
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
I just looked and I've recieved one neg rep point for this because what I said was unnessasary(spelling)...Then I got one for another thread that says, servercrash was harsh and arrogant....muahhahahahhahah I love this rep thing.
server_crash
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I've had two minus rep on the 22nd of april for no reason in a word game... these rep arent used properly thats for sure...
It seems like nobody has got anything else to say about piracy...
I'll give you some positive rep. It's funny but stupid how some people are treating this. It's like, people don't understand that when your in a debate, you argue with people.
server_crash
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Precisely, and when a debate is being conducted all a person needs do is be mindful of the language they use and the fact that personally directed insults and/or abuse shouldn't be traded.
Avoid value-laden terms and qualify or verify the points you make and no-one can be offended. If people are using the rep system to 'punish' people whose views they disagree with they should stop doing so!
Catweazle
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Precisely, and when a debate is being conducted all a person needs do is be mindful of the language they use and the fact that personally directed insults and/or abuse shouldn't be traded.
I haven't seen any reasonably bad language, and insults are part of debates. Don't you watch the political debates!
server_crash
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well, when say the presidential debates happen, they dont directly insult their opponents character, just there actions. But politicians do, however mudsling, which is looked down upon. So when they are insulting each other it is more or less "off the record"...So, insulting the person is not part of debating.
Did you watch the edwards vs cheny debate? I heard some pretty nasty things, but they were on the record.
server_crash
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insults are part of debates.
Not on Daniweb they're not. Even a cursory read through the 'Forum Rules' section of the FAQ will quickly demonstrate this ;)
Catweazle
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Poll has been closed for a while and now the topic is also. Nothing is being added to the discussion, really :(
Catweazle
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