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A possible workaround for the IDE #1 ERROR when using a Cable select (CS) drive in a Toshiba laptop.
Once this modification is carried out the drive is accessable for flashing as a master/slave or region free (RPC1) subject to the F/W being available for your drive (CHECK FIRST).
This information is compiled from several sources and my experiments to try and help others but I am in no way responsible for it's final results, it worked for me when the so called experts on a laptop forum and the like wouldn't help, even though claiming to know how it's done (must affect national security or something), tossers!!!
Hey they are my drives so if I stuff it up it's my loss.
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When I installed these type of DVD drives (Toshiba SD-C2402 & SD-C2502) I would get the IDE #1 ERROR at bootup but the drives still functioned in most versions of Windows with no detectable problem?
But when I tried to flash the firmware I would get error messages like the following:
00 Master Not ATAPI device
01 Slave Not ATAPI device
Secondary:
02 Not connected
03 Not connected
Terciary:
04 Master Not connected
and
Drive not connected or open Etc. Etc.
I found a possible fix that entailed booting from a bootdisk FDD containing the firmware upgrade with the HDD removed which is supposed to not give an error but find the DVD/CD-ROM etc. but this didn't work for me, worth a try though?
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Solution.
**See diagrams**
This is how I did it: find contact 47 (next to 49) on the DVD side of the IDE connector and bridge it to contact 45 with solder or a wire.
Someone elses explanation
1. Take the DVD out of the laptop and find the 47 contact on the IDE socket
2. Take a 300 Ohm resistore and solder it to that contact
3. If you connect the other part of the resistor to the case (ground) the drive becomes master and if you solder it to the +5 volt the drive is found as slave
I also came across information stating that a resistor is not necessary and I actually found that after flashing I no longer needed the modified connector/interface as the flashing solved the problem?
I then purchased a used CD-ROM drive just for the unmodified connector to use on my drive and I now keep the modified connector for flashing purposes only, I have since sold the bare drive I bought for more than I paid, the connector thus cost me nothing :-).
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More information on the flashing firmware?
The original Toshiba firmwares are the one with 10xx and 17xx
If you have a drive with firmware 1511 then the M/S setting in this firmware is set to be Slave. But when you flash with firmware 1711 the drive set to Master.
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A few questions I asked the expert (Hijacker):
Q1. How can I tell if the DVD drive is master or slave now and what should it be? I assume the HDD is primary master and the DVD is on the secondary IDE controller.
A. Not sure about this. Actuatly it doesn't even matter.
Q2. Now that the drive is flashed/updated should I undo the modification to the IDE connector?
A. No. But you can flash it to original Toshiba firmware wich starts with 10XX and 17XX. One of these ones is master the other one is able select. I don't know which is which.
Q3. What did the IDE connector modification do, change the M/S setting thereby making the drive flashable?
A. It changed the signal for master/slave.
Q4. Does the 1D13 & XD23 firmware make the drive master or slave because the example below doesn't help me:
A. "You have a drive with firmware 1511. The M/S setting in this firmware is set to be as Slave. But then you flash with 1711 wich has inside the firmware the drive set to Master",
As I said before. I am not sure wich one is which.
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If you have other drives you wish to use in your laptop ie. CD-RW, CD-ROM like me then you may have to get another connector or only carry out a temporary modification till you have flashed to master/slave on the CS drive.
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Links:
Drive info Utility from the Guru:
http://hijacker.rpc1.org/discinfo/
The firmware updates by brand:
http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_all.php
**** NB. CHECK YOUR FIRMWARE UPDATE AVAILABILTY *****
I have tried to attach the jpeg files to this post to help explain the procedure.
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A possible workaround for the IDE #1 ERROR when using a Cable select (CS) drive in a Toshiba laptop.
Once this modification is carried out the drive is accessable for flashing as a master/slave or region free (RPC1) subject to the F/W being available for your drive (CHECK FIRST).
This information is compiled from several sources and my experiments to try and help others but I am in no way responsible for it's final results, it worked for me when the so called experts on a laptop forum and the like wouldn't help, even though claiming to know how it's done (must affect national security or something), tossers!!!
Hey they are my drives so if I stuff it up it's my loss.
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When I installed these type of DVD drives (Toshiba SD-C2402 & SD-C2502) I would get the IDE #1 ERROR at bootup but the drives still functioned in most versions of Windows with no detectable problem?
But when I tried to flash the firmware I would get error messages like the following:
00 Master Not ATAPI device
01 Slave Not ATAPI device
Secondary:
02 Not connected
03 Not connected
Terciary:
04 Master Not connected
and
Drive not connected or open Etc. Etc.
I found a possible fix that entailed booting from a bootdisk FDD containing the firmware upgrade with the HDD removed which is supposed to not give an error but find the DVD/CD-ROM etc. but this didn't work for me, worth a try though?
**************************
Solution.
**See diagrams**
This is how I did it: find contact 47 (next to 49) on the DVD side of the IDE connector and bridge it to contact 45 with solder or a wire.
Someone elses explanation
1. Take the DVD out of the laptop and find the 47 contact on the IDE socket
2. Take a 300 Ohm resistore and solder it to that contact
3. If you connect the other part of the resistor to the case (ground) the drive becomes master and if you solder it to the +5 volt the drive is found as slave
I also came across information stating that a resistor is not necessary and I actually found that after flashing I no longer needed the modified connector/interface as the flashing solved the problem?
I then purchased a used CD-ROM drive just for the unmodified connector to use on my drive and I now keep the modified connector for flashing purposes only, I have since sold the bare drive I bought for more than I paid, the connector thus cost me nothing :-).
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More information on the flashing firmware?
The original Toshiba firmwares are the one with 10xx and 17xx
If you have a drive with firmware 1511 then the M/S setting in this firmware is set to be Slave. But when you flash with firmware 1711 the drive set to Master.
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A few questions I asked the expert (Hijacker):
Q1. How can I tell if the DVD drive is master or slave now and what should it be? I assume the HDD is primary master and the DVD is on the secondary IDE controller.
A. Not sure about this. Actuatly it doesn't even matter.
Q2. Now that the drive is flashed/updated should I undo the modification to the IDE connector?
A. No. But you can flash it to original Toshiba firmware wich starts with 10XX and 17XX. One of these ones is master the other one is able select. I don't know which is which.
Q3. What did the IDE connector modification do, change the M/S setting thereby making the drive flashable?
A. It changed the signal for master/slave.
Q4. Does the 1D13 & XD23 firmware make the drive master or slave because the example below doesn't help me:
A. "You have a drive with firmware 1511. The M/S setting in this firmware is set to be as Slave. But then you flash with 1711 wich has inside the firmware the drive set to Master",
As I said before. I am not sure wich one is which.
**************************************************
If you have other drives you wish to use in your laptop ie. CD-RW, CD-ROM like me then you may have to get another connector or only carry out a temporary modification till you have flashed to master/slave on the CS drive.
**************************************************
Links:
Drive info Utility from the Guru:
http://hijacker.rpc1.org/discinfo/
The firmware updates by brand:
http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_all.php
**** NB. CHECK YOUR FIRMWARE UPDATE AVAILABILTY *****
I have tried to attach the jpeg files to this post to help explain the procedure.
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I need help with this one, I have the SD-C2502 with the X011 firmware
in it, but it has been set to master and I have tried to us the VUP100k.exe program but it keeps coming up error just after i say yes to it flashing the bios. and it puts up something about NON STOP Eject or something like that.
Please help I'm stuck, I need this drive to be slave it does not have a PCB on it it just goes onto the laptop
in it, but it has been set to master and I have tried to us the VUP100k.exe program but it keeps coming up error just after i say yes to it flashing the bios. and it puts up something about NON STOP Eject or something like that.
Please help I'm stuck, I need this drive to be slave it does not have a PCB on it it just goes onto the laptop
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What I did to fix the ide #1 error
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Model: SD-C2502 1313
Toshiba sattelite pro 6100
Windows xp pro
I tried to flash it to make it region free, but used the wrong rom version. Bios couldn't detect drive.
1. Found the correct firmware for my drive, SD-C2502 1313.
2. Formatted an 3,5" ms-dos start-up disk in Windows explorer.
3. Copied the firmware files to the disk.
4. Shut down.
5. Removed the dvd player from the laptop. This way I didnt get the ide#1 error on start-up.
6. Booted from the 3,5" start-up disk.
7. Put the dvd player back in.
8. Ran the vup100k 1313b.hex programme. Bingo.
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Model: SD-C2502 1313
Toshiba sattelite pro 6100
Windows xp pro
I tried to flash it to make it region free, but used the wrong rom version. Bios couldn't detect drive.
1. Found the correct firmware for my drive, SD-C2502 1313.
2. Formatted an 3,5" ms-dos start-up disk in Windows explorer.
3. Copied the firmware files to the disk.
4. Shut down.
5. Removed the dvd player from the laptop. This way I didnt get the ide#1 error on start-up.
6. Booted from the 3,5" start-up disk.
7. Put the dvd player back in.
8. Ran the vup100k 1313b.hex programme. Bingo.
Last edited by ketil : Dec 29th, 2003 at 5:40 pm.
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Same problem here, with a Satellite 1800-S253 and the Toshiba SD-c2502 (FW version 1313). Firmware flash and boom.
I have tried ketil's method of removing the drive, booting, re-inserting and flashing, but strange enough, the IDE error stays even once the DVD/CD drive is pulled. Any explanations for that one?
I have ebayed a replacement drive (this time it is FW version 1513), but same thing: the BIOS doesn't recognise it.
I will sneak around the BIOS a little more to see whether I can set IDE configuration differently, but I couldn't find anything at first glance. Secondly, I have read somewhere that a guy woke up his drive again by disabling IDE 2 in his Windows settings.... Wow. Gotta try. Last resort is manipulating the IDE connectors as described above - I just fear that's going to be a mess...
I have tried ketil's method of removing the drive, booting, re-inserting and flashing, but strange enough, the IDE error stays even once the DVD/CD drive is pulled. Any explanations for that one?
I have ebayed a replacement drive (this time it is FW version 1513), but same thing: the BIOS doesn't recognise it.
I will sneak around the BIOS a little more to see whether I can set IDE configuration differently, but I couldn't find anything at first glance. Secondly, I have read somewhere that a guy woke up his drive again by disabling IDE 2 in his Windows settings.... Wow. Gotta try. Last resort is manipulating the IDE connectors as described above - I just fear that's going to be a mess...
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Hey guys you sound like real Laptop Gurus,
anyway I had this problem with my DVD drive (SD-C2402) in a
Toshiba Satellite 2710DVD, my DVD drive keeps blinking everytime I turn on my computer, back in Vancouver a so-called "Toshiba Certified Service Technician" repaired my laptop as he claims by replacing my DVD drive with a new one, I believed him at the time because I had not opened a lptop before but now that I have done it after moving to Ontario, Canada I come to realize taht maybe my laptop still has the same DVD drive. I dont believe it laptops have quite a simple Plug and Play structure inside, I payed $400 for. The technician temporarily fixed it some way I get the same problem again now, I come to realize maybe its not the drives fault.
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When I restart my computer..the "TOSHIBA" thing in red stays there for about an hour, while my DVD drive keeps blinking, then about 7 minutes later it moves on to saying IDE # 1 Error at the top left hand corner ( DVD Drive still blinking, not ejecting ) and When the computer is done booting up the DVD drive is still blinking and there is no CD/DVD device detected by my laptop.. no mention in the Device Manager or My Computer.
Guys Please help me out with this,
I am not aware of the term "Flash it".
Please tell me how to fix this in the simplest words.
fizzyboy88
anyway I had this problem with my DVD drive (SD-C2402) in a
Toshiba Satellite 2710DVD, my DVD drive keeps blinking everytime I turn on my computer, back in Vancouver a so-called "Toshiba Certified Service Technician" repaired my laptop as he claims by replacing my DVD drive with a new one, I believed him at the time because I had not opened a lptop before but now that I have done it after moving to Ontario, Canada I come to realize taht maybe my laptop still has the same DVD drive. I dont believe it laptops have quite a simple Plug and Play structure inside, I payed $400 for. The technician temporarily fixed it some way I get the same problem again now, I come to realize maybe its not the drives fault.
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When I restart my computer..the "TOSHIBA" thing in red stays there for about an hour, while my DVD drive keeps blinking, then about 7 minutes later it moves on to saying IDE # 1 Error at the top left hand corner ( DVD Drive still blinking, not ejecting ) and When the computer is done booting up the DVD drive is still blinking and there is no CD/DVD device detected by my laptop.. no mention in the Device Manager or My Computer.
Guys Please help me out with this,
I am not aware of the term "Flash it".
Please tell me how to fix this in the simplest words.
fizzyboy88
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I would have one ask I have a CD Rome TEAC 224-B and have myself from
e-Bay the plug-in module bought with to switch on in my Toshiba Tecra
8100 drive that to laptop no longer highly only if I CD Rome drive
assembly out-put and then again clean-put functions it otherwise get I
the fehlmeldung IDE 1 # error. I have determined this module with the
pin 47 + 49 soldered am. That is to actually origin-be entitled which
happened if I this soldered connection would take away
e-Bay the plug-in module bought with to switch on in my Toshiba Tecra
8100 drive that to laptop no longer highly only if I CD Rome drive
assembly out-put and then again clean-put functions it otherwise get I
the fehlmeldung IDE 1 # error. I have determined this module with the
pin 47 + 49 soldered am. That is to actually origin-be entitled which
happened if I this soldered connection would take away
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After a year in the cooler, i took back my missflashed DVD rom drive.
Toshiba Satellite 1805-s203
Unit: TOSHIBA SD-C2502 with Rom ver 1313
One year ago, I missflashed the unit and i didn't find the way to make it live again so i took off the part from my laptop so it could start windows faster than it did when the missflashed dvd was connected.
So this time i took some time reading the posts of many people and found the solution. You know a lot has been told about the famous pin 47 and 45 bridge connection.
Well here it is, you don't have to buy an IDE to LAP CD DRIVE connection or anything, the only thing you need is:
1. A tiny screwdriver X preferred
2. A piece of copper wire or another tiny wire (as thin as a hair) like 1cm long
Step by step.
NOTE: You don't have to find your original firmware, it's restored after the operation to RPC-2 With region code locked as originally was- Your computer must be off!
1.- Lift the plastic plate with the INTERNET and APP1 APP2 buttons with pressure
2.- Take off the 2 screws in the top of the keyboard
3.- Lift the keyboard and you'll see if you pay attention right under the letter "K" of your keyboard when you lifted it a screw that you have to take out and another screw you have to take out its the one just up the "F9 and F10" keys.
4.- Pull out the case of the DVD drive
5.- Remove the upper case of the DVD drive (3 screws and 2 at the back)
6.- In the back part of the DVD Drive its a tiny hole that you have to pull down a little "thing" that makes the dvd case come out
7.- After you've done all that YOU HAVE TO CHECK THE SCHEME JPG. wich is nothing but the pins name that you gonna use next
8.- With a flat screwdriver you have to pull back the pins 47 and 45 so you can attach in the back of them the piece of wire to make a bridge between them. (THIS MODE SETS YOUR DVD TO SLAVE)
9.- After that you have to close the dvd case and put it again at your laptop.
10.-Turn on your computer and as you can see by the time it takes to load windows your DVD is now back to life and restored with maybe 1 or 2 hours of work instead of buying a new one.
NOTE 2: If you missflash your drive again it's easy to make it live again, all you have to do its take the wire out and it's set back to MASTER
and again if you missflash it PUT THE WIRE AGAIN AND ITS SLAVE and again again again again.
If you like animation as I do, check my website:
http://www.opower.net
Thanks
Eduardo Altamirano
Mexico DF
Toshiba Satellite 1805-s203
Unit: TOSHIBA SD-C2502 with Rom ver 1313
One year ago, I missflashed the unit and i didn't find the way to make it live again so i took off the part from my laptop so it could start windows faster than it did when the missflashed dvd was connected.
So this time i took some time reading the posts of many people and found the solution. You know a lot has been told about the famous pin 47 and 45 bridge connection.
Well here it is, you don't have to buy an IDE to LAP CD DRIVE connection or anything, the only thing you need is:
1. A tiny screwdriver X preferred
2. A piece of copper wire or another tiny wire (as thin as a hair) like 1cm long
Step by step.
NOTE: You don't have to find your original firmware, it's restored after the operation to RPC-2 With region code locked as originally was- Your computer must be off!
1.- Lift the plastic plate with the INTERNET and APP1 APP2 buttons with pressure
2.- Take off the 2 screws in the top of the keyboard
3.- Lift the keyboard and you'll see if you pay attention right under the letter "K" of your keyboard when you lifted it a screw that you have to take out and another screw you have to take out its the one just up the "F9 and F10" keys.
4.- Pull out the case of the DVD drive
5.- Remove the upper case of the DVD drive (3 screws and 2 at the back)
6.- In the back part of the DVD Drive its a tiny hole that you have to pull down a little "thing" that makes the dvd case come out
7.- After you've done all that YOU HAVE TO CHECK THE SCHEME JPG. wich is nothing but the pins name that you gonna use next
8.- With a flat screwdriver you have to pull back the pins 47 and 45 so you can attach in the back of them the piece of wire to make a bridge between them. (THIS MODE SETS YOUR DVD TO SLAVE)
9.- After that you have to close the dvd case and put it again at your laptop.
10.-Turn on your computer and as you can see by the time it takes to load windows your DVD is now back to life and restored with maybe 1 or 2 hours of work instead of buying a new one.
NOTE 2: If you missflash your drive again it's easy to make it live again, all you have to do its take the wire out and it's set back to MASTER
and again if you missflash it PUT THE WIRE AGAIN AND ITS SLAVE and again again again again.
If you like animation as I do, check my website:
http://www.opower.net
Thanks
Eduardo Altamirano
Mexico DF
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Excellent work, buddy.
100 time THANK YOU!!!! :!: :!: :!: :!:
I have TOSHIBA DVD on my notebook and i flashed him (obviously wrong),
afther that i received msg. IDE #1 ERROR...and cant install nothing....
DVD doesnt working, i cant install win/linux...i was desperate...and thinking
(last solution) to take my notebook to the service centre. But I know how
much expensive they are, and long time to finish their work.
So, started to search on the web something about this problem, and find
this forum, and your scheme and manual what to do.
Coz I havent nothing to loose, i took screwdriver and start digging.
After 2 hrs sweating, and trying to connect those two pins, finnaly made it.
I was connect them, and for first time bios reccognized my DVD and I was
able to flash him again...then normally boot (install system again)
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :mrgreen:
Once, thx for instructions.
Bye,
chawka
100 time THANK YOU!!!! :!: :!: :!: :!:
I have TOSHIBA DVD on my notebook and i flashed him (obviously wrong),
afther that i received msg. IDE #1 ERROR...and cant install nothing....
DVD doesnt working, i cant install win/linux...i was desperate...and thinking
(last solution) to take my notebook to the service centre. But I know how
much expensive they are, and long time to finish their work.
So, started to search on the web something about this problem, and find
this forum, and your scheme and manual what to do.
Coz I havent nothing to loose, i took screwdriver and start digging.
After 2 hrs sweating, and trying to connect those two pins, finnaly made it.
I was connect them, and for first time bios reccognized my DVD and I was
able to flash him again...then normally boot (install system again)
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :mrgreen:
Once, thx for instructions.
Bye,
chawka
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