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Poor performance by computer
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I'm not a gamer, I *only* play a 9 year old game, Counter Strike 1.6. But lately, it's been performing very poorly.
Intel Pentium D 2.8GHz
Nvidia 7300LE 256MB
1 GB DDR2 RAM
I know the stats are terrible, but they're good enough for a TEN year old game. I'd expect a minimum 40FPS, but I dont get that.
I used Fraps for benchmarking.
1.
Okay here. But then;
2.
3.
These were recorded during a single gameplay session, after cleaning my fans/heatsinks etc.
I used to play this game very well on the same PC 1-2 years back, but since, I'm getting this terrible FPS problem at times.
What can be the problem? How do I troubleshoot this?
Thanks.
Intel Pentium D 2.8GHz
Nvidia 7300LE 256MB
1 GB DDR2 RAM
I know the stats are terrible, but they're good enough for a TEN year old game. I'd expect a minimum 40FPS, but I dont get that.
I used Fraps for benchmarking.
1.
Frames Time (ms) Min Max Avg 7462 163222 0 62 45.717
Okay here. But then;
2.
Frames Time (ms) Min Max Avg 925 29746 14 56 31.097
3.
Frames Time (ms) Min Max Avg 3369 111489 13 56 30.218
These were recorded during a single gameplay session, after cleaning my fans/heatsinks etc.
I used to play this game very well on the same PC 1-2 years back, but since, I'm getting this terrible FPS problem at times.
What can be the problem? How do I troubleshoot this?
Thanks.
Last edited by awwsnap; Oct 4th, 2009 at 5:40 am.
We'd prolly need to see what else is runnig. A list from Task Manager/Processes would be helpful (sorted by CPU usage).
e.g. new anti-virus version now using more CPU.
e.g. new anti-virus version now using more CPU.
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I've changed so many AVs, that I think we can rule out that possibility. I'm using Microsoft Security essentials right now. Also, I've reinstalled Windows XP 2-3 times since last year. I've tried shutting down all processes that aren't critical.
Well, you're there right in front of your PC and we're here, perhaps thousands of miles away. The usual forum diagnostic problem.
So, on the basis of your words, the next place to look is your broadband connexion. Say, for example, in the past two years your pipe to the head end has had many more connexions attached and they're streaming or Counterstriking - you'll see your FPS fall away.
We know nothing about your broadband connexion, so perhaps we should move to that with a full description of everything you can tell us.
So, on the basis of your words, the next place to look is your broadband connexion. Say, for example, in the past two years your pipe to the head end has had many more connexions attached and they're streaming or Counterstriking - you'll see your FPS fall away.
We know nothing about your broadband connexion, so perhaps we should move to that with a full description of everything you can tell us.
Suspishio
My advice is at your risk
Qosmio G50-10H; T9400 2.53GHz Core 2 Duo; 4GB RAM; Vista HP (32)
nForce 680i LT; Q6600 Quad Core 2.4GHz; 8GB RAM; XP Pro (64)
Dell XPS M1710; T7200 2GHz Core 2 Duo; 2GB RAM; XP Pro (32)
My advice is at your risk
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nForce 680i LT; Q6600 Quad Core 2.4GHz; 8GB RAM; XP Pro (64)
Dell XPS M1710; T7200 2GHz Core 2 Duo; 2GB RAM; XP Pro (32)
Okay, it's a 256/256 kbps connection. No one but me uses the connection. I would like to clarify that in a few other games (offline) that I sometimes ran, I'm experiencing the same performance drop.
Biggest example is Portal. I played and *finished* the whole game a year or two back. Last week I ran it, I was getting bearable FPS, but as soon as I looked at a portal, it fell to 10-20.
Let me know if you need any other information.
Biggest example is Portal. I played and *finished* the whole game a year or two back. Last week I ran it, I was getting bearable FPS, but as soon as I looked at a portal, it fell to 10-20.
Let me know if you need any other information.
Last edited by awwsnap; Oct 4th, 2009 at 1:37 pm.
Aaagh. 256Kbps. I'm amazed that you ever got to even 30fps on CS. You must live miles from anywhere.
Anyway, you said that your fps is poor when you play offline. That's important information. From a distance, diagnosis would be:
1/
Either your cpu is being utilised by something else. A list of running processes sorted in CPU usage order from Task Manager would help.
2/
Or your RAM usage is high and you're constantly swapping. There's data in Task Manager too for that.
Let us know.
Anyway, you said that your fps is poor when you play offline. That's important information. From a distance, diagnosis would be:
1/
Either your cpu is being utilised by something else. A list of running processes sorted in CPU usage order from Task Manager would help.
2/
Or your RAM usage is high and you're constantly swapping. There's data in Task Manager too for that.
Let us know.
Suspishio
My advice is at your risk
Qosmio G50-10H; T9400 2.53GHz Core 2 Duo; 4GB RAM; Vista HP (32)
nForce 680i LT; Q6600 Quad Core 2.4GHz; 8GB RAM; XP Pro (64)
Dell XPS M1710; T7200 2GHz Core 2 Duo; 2GB RAM; XP Pro (32)
My advice is at your risk
Qosmio G50-10H; T9400 2.53GHz Core 2 Duo; 4GB RAM; Vista HP (32)
nForce 680i LT; Q6600 Quad Core 2.4GHz; 8GB RAM; XP Pro (64)
Dell XPS M1710; T7200 2GHz Core 2 Duo; 2GB RAM; XP Pro (32)
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
G:\Documents and Settings\Owner>tasklist /V
Image Name PID Session Name Session# Mem Usage Status
User Name CPU Time Window T
itle
========================= ====== ================ ======== ============ ========
======= ================================================== ============ ========
================================================================
System Idle Process 0 Console 0 28 K Running
NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM 13:26:06 N/A
System 4 Console 0 156 K Running
NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM 0:05:11 N/A
smss.exe 544 Console 0 84 K Running
NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM 0:00:00 N/A
csrss.exe 592 Console 0 3,708 K Running
NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM 0:01:27 N/A
winlogon.exe 616 Console 0 556 K Running
NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM 0:00:03 N/A
services.exe 660 Console 0 4,332 K Running
NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM 0:00:42 N/A
lsass.exe 672 Console 0 2,100 K Running
NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM 0:00:43 N/A
nvsvc32.exe 828 Console 0 2,516 K Running
NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM 0:00:06 NVSVCPMM
WindowClass
svchost.exe 856 Console 0 2,240 K Running
NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM 0:00:01 N/A
svchost.exe 904 Console 0 2,144 K Running
NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK SERVICE 0:00:37 N/A
MsMpEng.exe 984 Console 0 60,092 K Running
NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM 0:34:03 N/A
svchost.exe 1040 Console 0 42,296 K Running
NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM 0:05:26 N/A
svchost.exe 1232 Console 0 5,420 K Running
NT AUTHORITY\LOCAL SERVICE 0:00:00 N/A
spoolsv.exe 1352 Console 0 3,536 K Running
NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM 0:00:01 N/A
svchost.exe 1844 Console 0 1,104 K Running
NT AUTHORITY\LOCAL SERVICE 0:00:00 N/A
FolderSizeSvc.exe 1924 Console 0 2,776 K Running
NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM 0:00:08 N/A
jqs.exe 2044 Console 0 1,408 K Running
NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM 0:02:11 N/A
HPZipm12.exe 184 Console 0 488 K Running
NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM 0:00:00 N/A
SbieSvc.exe 404 Console 0 380 K Running
NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM 0:00:00 N/A
SbPFLnch.exe 568 Console 0 296 K Running
NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM 0:00:00 N/A
SbPFSvc.exe 1064 Console 0 9,028 K Running
NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM 0:00:34 N/A
svchost.exe 1088 Console 0 2,168 K Running
NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM 0:00:01 N/A
uphclean.exe 1196 Console 0 500 K Running
NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM 0:00:00 N/A
alg.exe 1572 Console 0 1,080 K Running
NT AUTHORITY\LOCAL SERVICE 0:00:00 N/A
explorer.exe 432 Console 0 45,708 K Running
CYANIDE\Owner 0:05:54 N/A
ctfmon.exe 2112 Console 0 2,568 K Running
CYANIDE\Owner 0:00:23 N/A
RTHDCPL.EXE 2272 Console 0 9,768 K Running
CYANIDE\Owner 0:02:04 Realtek
HD Audio Manager
TaskSwitch.exe 2288 Console 0 348 K Running
CYANIDE\Owner 0:00:00 N/A
rundll32.exe 2328 Console 0 864 K Running
CYANIDE\Owner 0:00:06 MediaCenter
SbPFCl.exe 2520 Console 0 2,760 K Running
CYANIDE\Owner 0:00:13 KPF4MainWindow
jusched.exe 2560 Console 0 1,044 K Running
CYANIDE\Owner 0:00:00 Xfire LS
P 10650-Owner-c3095e22-bf4f-43fe-9909-0481691d8fba
opware32.exe 2904 Console 0 712 K Running
CYANIDE\Owner 0:00:03 N/A
msseces.exe 3620 Console 0 2,464 K Running
CYANIDE\Owner 0:00:14 Microsoft Security Essentials
bpk.exe 4040 Console 0 4,560 K Running
CYANIDE\Owner 0:07:31 N/A
Launchy.exe 2488 Console 0 10,800 K Running
CYANIDE\Owner 0:01:34 N/A
LastFM.exe 2936 Console 0 8,828 K Running
CYANIDE\Owner 0:00:22 Last.fm
rapimgr.exe 2852 Console 0 2,288 K Running
CYANIDE\Owner 0:00:03 RAPIMgr
wcescomm.exe 2992 Console 0 1,912 K Running
CYANIDE\Owner 0:00:03 MCI command handling window
svchost.exe 864 Console 0 716 K Running
NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM 0:00:00 N/A
wmplayer.exe 1164 Console 0 25,648 K Running
CYANIDE\Owner 0:03:37 Mika - L
ove Today - MiniLyrics
MyMobiler.exe 3732 Console 0 4,480 K Running
CYANIDE\Owner 0:00:09 My Mobil
er
GoogleCrashHandler.exe 168 Console 0 880 K Running
CYANIDE\Owner 0:00:00 N/A
chrome.exe 3844 Console 0 44,616 K Running
CYANIDE\Owner 0:00:37 Poor performance by computer - Monitors, Displays and Video Cards - Goog
chrome.exe 1320 Console 0 11,276 K Running
CYANIDE\Owner 0:00:04 N/A
chrome.exe 1432 Console 0 16,384 K Running
CYANIDE\Owner 0:00:01 DummyWindowless
chrome.exe 1092 Console 0 6,140 K Running
CYANIDE\Owner 0:00:03 N/A
Client.exe 2880 Console 0 8,008 K Running
CYANIDE\Owner 0:00:06 N/A
procexp.exe 3848 Console 0 8,464 K Running
CYANIDE\Owner 0:00:03 Process
Explorer - Sysinternals: www.sysinternals.com [CYANIDE\Owner]
opera.exe 3416 Console 0 40,864 K Running
CYANIDE\Owner 0:00:04 /g/tech
- Opera
taskmgr.exe 2168 Console 0 5,452 K Running
CYANIDE\Owner 0:00:01 Windows
Task Manager
cmd.exe 3628 Console 0 2,756 K Running
CYANIDE\Owner 0:00:00 C:\WINDO
WS\system32\cmd.exe - tasklist /V
tasklist.exe 3244 Console 0 5,280 K Running
CYANIDE\Owner 0:00:00 OleMainThreadWndName
wmiprvse.exe 2320 Console 0 5,968 K Running
NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK SERVICE 0:00:00 N/A
G:\Documents and Settings\Owner>List of processes.
My RAM usage right now is around 65%. It usually is 45-55 when idle.
Last edited by awwsnap; Oct 5th, 2009 at 1:49 pm.
I'll take your word for it on RAM and knock that off the suspect list.
Your processes list came out rather un-columned if you know what I mean. But it showed NO CPU usage. What is using CPU at the same time as CS?
Another thought, going back a few years - we did a lot of configuring to CS 1.6 to get the FS up to 60 (WOW). In the end, it was a combination of settings we got from the CS forum with a downgrading to Direct X 7 as one of the parameter specs. Does that ring a bell? Has any update occurred to Direct X with the usual Windows updates?
Your processes list came out rather un-columned if you know what I mean. But it showed NO CPU usage. What is using CPU at the same time as CS?
Another thought, going back a few years - we did a lot of configuring to CS 1.6 to get the FS up to 60 (WOW). In the end, it was a combination of settings we got from the CS forum with a downgrading to Direct X 7 as one of the parameter specs. Does that ring a bell? Has any update occurred to Direct X with the usual Windows updates?
Suspishio
My advice is at your risk
Qosmio G50-10H; T9400 2.53GHz Core 2 Duo; 4GB RAM; Vista HP (32)
nForce 680i LT; Q6600 Quad Core 2.4GHz; 8GB RAM; XP Pro (64)
Dell XPS M1710; T7200 2GHz Core 2 Duo; 2GB RAM; XP Pro (32)
My advice is at your risk
Qosmio G50-10H; T9400 2.53GHz Core 2 Duo; 4GB RAM; Vista HP (32)
nForce 680i LT; Q6600 Quad Core 2.4GHz; 8GB RAM; XP Pro (64)
Dell XPS M1710; T7200 2GHz Core 2 Duo; 2GB RAM; XP Pro (32)
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#9 Oct 6th, 2009
About DirectX, I've always been running DirectX 9c on this computer. The oldest 9c version is 4.09.00.0903, I'm running 4.09.00.0904, the latest 9c.
This is a stupid question, but I cannot figure out how to get a list of processes running on my PC...
This is a stupid question, but I cannot figure out how to get a list of processes running on my PC...
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#10 Oct 6th, 2009
You right click on the bottom taskbar and select Task Manager. In Windows Task Manager, you go to the Processes tab. Dead simples.
Then you left click the word CPU (twice) so that the highest usage item appears at the top.
You post a screenshot or list it all out nicely.
Then you left click the word CPU (twice) so that the highest usage item appears at the top.
You post a screenshot or list it all out nicely.
Suspishio
My advice is at your risk
Qosmio G50-10H; T9400 2.53GHz Core 2 Duo; 4GB RAM; Vista HP (32)
nForce 680i LT; Q6600 Quad Core 2.4GHz; 8GB RAM; XP Pro (64)
Dell XPS M1710; T7200 2GHz Core 2 Duo; 2GB RAM; XP Pro (32)
My advice is at your risk
Qosmio G50-10H; T9400 2.53GHz Core 2 Duo; 4GB RAM; Vista HP (32)
nForce 680i LT; Q6600 Quad Core 2.4GHz; 8GB RAM; XP Pro (64)
Dell XPS M1710; T7200 2GHz Core 2 Duo; 2GB RAM; XP Pro (32)
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