ah..makes sense!¬ Not use to the short hand.... coul've sworn I read somehwhere that some browsers don't support some of the shorthand properties...(I think!).
As to the minwidth, I want things to pass as ok in 800x600 at least, if not as small as 640x480......that way it still looks good.......the amount of sites I've seen that when reduced on width look bad! things drop, overlap etc... just don't want that!