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Originally Posted by J_Search
A. Lack of participation in these activities will not prevent the problems that the programs in question are designed to protect against. Porn sites are not illegal, but they have plenty of malicious code. Email? Instant Messaging? All very legal, yet breeding grounds for malicious activity. What are "illegal activities"? Not sure, but P2P and "illegal activities" are not the source of our problems.C. Proper use of the program (practicing "safe use"). "" as defined as ensuring what you're downloading is the true intended download by checking file properties, user ratings, as well as just being overall knowledgeable about the intended file will keep you almost as safe as not using them at all.
Since when does XP built in firewall "suffice". Not sure if you're aware, but the XP firewall only provides protection against incoming connections. I am NOT disputing this firewall's incoming protection, and by no means is this a BAD firewall, but how exactly are you going to protect against the outgoing communication from malware, spyware, key loggers, ect..? Here I'll help, with a better firewall and a variety of adware/spyware/malware removers and products to prevent infections.
So let me get this straight, all you have installed is an antivirus program and XP firewall?
What's your IP address, again?
J_
2) Most of that stuff is illegal content
3) If you use common sense you won't get nasties. That includes not clicking on suspicious links, disabling unsigned and scripted ActiveX controls, and not opening Email attachments you aren't expecting.
4) If you practice safe computing like that, you won't get any nasties installed in the first place so no outgoing connections to worry about.
5) I've indeed only a good AV program and the Windows firewall active (which btw DOES block outgoing traffic unless you tell it not to, or maybe if you tell it to). I've not had any nasties on my system in years, the last time being around 1994 and that coming in on a floppy with only data files which got infected on the university LAN.
As people are clearly allowed to attack me but I'm not allowed to defend myself, I no longer post to this site.
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jwenting,
Explain how it's possible to be infected by a music or movie file? I ask, because these file types are predominately shared over P2P networks, and if "a lot of stuf you get over P2P networks is itself infected" I was just wondering if you figured out a new way to infect these types of files. Good work if you have, because you'd be the first.
No argument here. However, your first claim was "using P2P crap and refrain from other illegal activities" again I ask, what are "illegal activities" if you're not referring to the use of P2P?
Finally, some good advice. See, that right there makes your membership fee worth it!
I would classify this as classic ignorance. By this logic if it's supposed to work, or if I think it's supposed to work, it always will. Edward sure wouldn't agree. That's Edward Murphy by the way.
I have two problems with this. 1st, 1994? You do know it's almost 2006? Come On! You would have an easier time convincing us you and Queen BEATRIX smoke marijuana on the weekends. You're not fooling anyone. If anyone actually believes you, I want their names and addresses because I'm having a HUGE sale on bridges. It sounds like you're in the market for one. And 2nd, I may not be able to convince you, but perhaps these reputable sources can, so please read:
The 1st sentence under the “Shortcomings of Windows Firewall� heading: http://netsecurity.about.com/od/fire.../aa081804b.htm &
The 2nd paragraph:
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,117380,00.asp
Where do you get your information from anyway?
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Originally Posted by jwenting
1) A lot of the stuff you get over P2P networks is itself infected, even if the P2P client isn't.
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Originally Posted by jwenting
2) Most of that stuff is illegal content
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Originally Posted by jwenting
3) If you use common sense you won't get nasties. That includes not clicking on suspicious links, disabling unsigned and scripted ActiveX controls, and not opening Email attachments you aren't expecting.
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Originally Posted by jwenting
4) If you practice safe computing like that, you won't get any nasties installed in the first place so no outgoing connections to worry about.
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Originally Posted by jwenting
5) I've indeed only a good AV program and the Windows firewall active (which btw DOES block outgoing traffic unless you tell it not to, or maybe if you tell it to). I've not had any nasties on my system in years, the last time being around 1994 and that coming in on a floppy with only data files which got infected on the university LAN.
The 1st sentence under the “Shortcomings of Windows Firewall� heading: http://netsecurity.about.com/od/fire.../aa081804b.htm &
The 2nd paragraph:
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,117380,00.asp
Where do you get your information from anyway?
J_
what's so weird about not having had a virus infection since 1994?
Goes to show that I'm smarter than the average virus
Yes, I've only ever had one virus infection in now nearly 20 years of working with computers and that was 1994 (give or take a year, could have been '93).
And I take no special precautions except common sense. While I do run a virus scanner it's never caught anything that I hadn't caught myself (like stuff in the deleted messages section of my mailserver).
It's more for peace of mind than anything else.
Most mp3s and especially movies are distributed as archives, often executable archives.
And those formats all have options for comments sections in which viral code can hide.
Or a virus is distributed as XXX.mp3.exe which on most peoples' computers will show as XXX.mp3 but if you doubleclick it to play it executes instead.
Goes to show that I'm smarter than the average virus
Yes, I've only ever had one virus infection in now nearly 20 years of working with computers and that was 1994 (give or take a year, could have been '93).
And I take no special precautions except common sense. While I do run a virus scanner it's never caught anything that I hadn't caught myself (like stuff in the deleted messages section of my mailserver).
It's more for peace of mind than anything else.
Most mp3s and especially movies are distributed as archives, often executable archives.
And those formats all have options for comments sections in which viral code can hide.
Or a virus is distributed as XXX.mp3.exe which on most peoples' computers will show as XXX.mp3 but if you doubleclick it to play it executes instead.
As people are clearly allowed to attack me but I'm not allowed to defend myself, I no longer post to this site.
and oh, if you believe any infomercial out there claiming something built into Windows is bad and telling you to buy alternative XXX instead I have this nice snake oil to cure all your diseases.
As people are clearly allowed to attack me but I'm not allowed to defend myself, I no longer post to this site.
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Wow....quite a debate in here....hehehe :lol:
Just scan anything that you're unsure of you'll be fine....
Or if you're crazy/paranoid enough and have a lots of patience... just scan your whole com everyday....
Can't say which is good or not..unless you know the techniques of making an antivirus program...
Everything's got it's pros and cons...it's just that whether you can live with the cons..
Not having a virus for 2 decades is quite possible.....for anything's possible.....there are 40 year old virgins out there...now that's a possibility.....:lol:
End of story...
Cheer up guyz! :mrgreen:
Just scan anything that you're unsure of you'll be fine....
Or if you're crazy/paranoid enough and have a lots of patience... just scan your whole com everyday....
Can't say which is good or not..unless you know the techniques of making an antivirus program...
Everything's got it's pros and cons...it's just that whether you can live with the cons..
Not having a virus for 2 decades is quite possible.....for anything's possible.....there are 40 year old virgins out there...now that's a possibility.....:lol:
End of story...
Cheer up guyz! :mrgreen:
I use Panda Platinum internet security, and yes it does slow down performance a little, but it doesn't use nearly as much CPU as Norton. My PC starts up faster, and works faster than before. Shuts down slower, but so what, It shut down eventualy if I press shut down, no need to watch over it.
I do a full scan when I have some idle time, maybe once a week. I also use the built in firewall.
I also have Spywareblaster and MS Antispywareblaster enabled at all times when connected to the internet, + a scheduled MSAntispyware scan every day.
Ad-aware SE Scan if I suspect something has gotten through my other defences. I also use CCleaner after scans. Just incase.
The one poster that said P2P was safe when only downloading movies and music is SO WRONG. I'm a businesschoolstudent, so I don't have the resources to go out and buy or rent movies, music etc. He should go check out the Gnutella forums for treads about Malware and then come back and apologise for lying. It has almost become an art to manege getting what you want with P2P. I manage, but it's sad to think about all the newbies falling into traps.
I use PeerGuardian2 as extra protection when using P2P apps, pretty effective in blocking known malicious IP's. Remember to update regularly. Link below
PeerGuardian2
I use Registry Mechanic for optimization, but only scan and clean, not the System Optimize, because I find it causes more bad then good (unstable)
and thats it I think
I do a full scan when I have some idle time, maybe once a week. I also use the built in firewall.
I also have Spywareblaster and MS Antispywareblaster enabled at all times when connected to the internet, + a scheduled MSAntispyware scan every day.
Ad-aware SE Scan if I suspect something has gotten through my other defences. I also use CCleaner after scans. Just incase.
The one poster that said P2P was safe when only downloading movies and music is SO WRONG. I'm a businesschoolstudent, so I don't have the resources to go out and buy or rent movies, music etc. He should go check out the Gnutella forums for treads about Malware and then come back and apologise for lying. It has almost become an art to manege getting what you want with P2P. I manage, but it's sad to think about all the newbies falling into traps.
I use PeerGuardian2 as extra protection when using P2P apps, pretty effective in blocking known malicious IP's. Remember to update regularly. Link below
PeerGuardian2
I use Registry Mechanic for optimization, but only scan and clean, not the System Optimize, because I find it causes more bad then good (unstable)
and thats it I think
Always try to live life to the fullest, and don't be afraid to try new things
So far I hav trend Trend Micro and Norton. Performance has been rather disappointing as it does not always manage to clean trojans. What the heck did I pay $ to get stuck with it for a whole year when certain viruses /trojans are undectable....
I have now bought F-Secure (All in one - Internet, E-mail, Fire-wall etc.).
So far so good! Helps to automatically block malicious virus when you surf the web. Frequent auto update.
Negative points - not recommended on notebooks. I think it does take up alot of resources and at times may slow things down. :eek:
If you're using a PC, this is it!
I have now bought F-Secure (All in one - Internet, E-mail, Fire-wall etc.).
So far so good! Helps to automatically block malicious virus when you surf the web. Frequent auto update.
Negative points - not recommended on notebooks. I think it does take up alot of resources and at times may slow things down. :eek:
If you're using a PC, this is it!
I use McAfee at work with EPO and it works well, I use Norton, TrendMicro. They both work well, trendmicro seems to have a smaller memory footprint. I use AVG on a few other systems I have and it works well, but I have had a couple of viruses get through that Norton picked up.
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From my tech support experience I can say that Trendmicro and Norton create the worst problems.
The Symantec Norton Internet Security Suite is the worse thing that somebody can do to their computer. It will not detect any spyware, it will crash very easy, if it crashes you cannot remove it unless you download SymNRT, you cannot reinstall it back once you uninstalled it, secure websites won't work; e-mail won't work, IT'S A MESS.
Trendmicro Internet Security is a joke. The interface for their firewall is incredibly stupid designed. If you want to turn of the firewall component that will also turn off the antivirus. I have to say though that I appreciate very much the trendmicro online scan which I used a lot of times to cleanup infected systems.
McAfee Antivirus is pretty efficient and fast. The only problem with them is that stupid ActiveX based installation system. The program is also based on Internet Explorer and if the security settings are damaged the antivirus will give you errors.
Considering that AVG is free and that rarely causes problems I strongly recommend it. System performance is excellent with this antivirus installed.
I also had tried Kaspersky Antivirus which is pretty powerful.
The Symantec Norton Internet Security Suite is the worse thing that somebody can do to their computer. It will not detect any spyware, it will crash very easy, if it crashes you cannot remove it unless you download SymNRT, you cannot reinstall it back once you uninstalled it, secure websites won't work; e-mail won't work, IT'S A MESS.
Trendmicro Internet Security is a joke. The interface for their firewall is incredibly stupid designed. If you want to turn of the firewall component that will also turn off the antivirus. I have to say though that I appreciate very much the trendmicro online scan which I used a lot of times to cleanup infected systems.
McAfee Antivirus is pretty efficient and fast. The only problem with them is that stupid ActiveX based installation system. The program is also based on Internet Explorer and if the security settings are damaged the antivirus will give you errors.
Considering that AVG is free and that rarely causes problems I strongly recommend it. System performance is excellent with this antivirus installed.
I also had tried Kaspersky Antivirus which is pretty powerful.
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