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I do not think that people are born with any rights rather they are something presented to you and maintained by the system that you live in. I think instinct i probably closer to what you meant by natural rights.
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I think many Christians would disagree.. some people believe that humans posses natural rights which were derived from God.
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Do people not have the right to live? The right to food and water and air? This could sooo easily turn into a conversation about capital punishment and abortion but I'd much rather not go there.
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Originally Posted by cscgal 
Do people not have the right to live? The right to food and water and air? This could sooo easily turn into a conversation about capital punishment and abortion but I'd much rather not go there.
What are your views on said issues?
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Originally Posted by joshSCH
I think many Christians would disagree.. some people believe that humans posses natural rights which were derived from God.
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Originally Posted by cscgal
Do people not have the right to live? The right to food and water and air?
Maybe im just thinking too deeply about the subject but i think although we have the right given different circumstances and socities then these things that we see as rights may not be. That includes things like living,water,food and air.
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Originally Posted by lasher511
Im a Christian and have never thought or heard anything of that sort. There are promises that God has made however i think that is a different to this concept of natural rights.
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because that is what is generally accepted by society. Hence why murder is against the law.
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This, I believe, is generally where most people get their argument from:
It's interesting to note that most people (sadly, myself included most of the time) tend to stop there...let's see the rest of the preamble, shall we?
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Originally Posted by Thomas Jefferson in The Unanamious Declaration of the thirteen united States of America.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.
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Originally Posted by Thomas Jefferson in The Unanamious Declaration of the thirteen united States of America.
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
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