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Originally Posted by Aia 
You only say that because that's how you have been conditioned to think. I agree it is much more easier for authorities agencies to restrict you to the point of making you a baggage.
Also, I would conceit that security is used as a pretext to control. But not, I do not agree that security and freedom are antithesis of each other.
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Originally Posted by sk8ndestroy14
This willing forfeit that you speak of was not my choice. Whether I wanted it or not, nobody asked me.
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Very very indirectly, I voted for nobody yet, as I just turned voting age, I would not have voted for some people that made it to office, and the ones I would have voted for did not have enough congressional support to trump their opponents. I was only able to vote for a very very small fraction of these people. Many American elections require clothespin votes in which we have no other choice. And the United States is most certainly a republic. If you don't think so, pick up a copy of the constitution.
Disclaimer: Nothing I say can be considered credible information (I wonder what that means about this disclaimer then).
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Originally Posted by joshSCH
Well, we are not a republic..
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Originally Posted by joshSCH
However, you did make a decision indirectly. Your congress representatives voted on the patriot act for you. They voted to restrict your freedoms and you voted for them.. Thus, you did indirectly vote to forfeit your freedoms.
Unfortunately, many justify their laziness to vigilance in that way.
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Originally Posted by sk8ndestroy14
And the United States is most certainly a republic. If you don't think so, pick up a copy of the constitution.
The liberals are beginning their global takeover by spreading their propaganda about inequality, global warming, health concerns, etc.
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Originally Posted by Aia
Very typical of the common "leading" folklore: once you elect a representative you are bound to accept every decision coming from him/her as the word of the Supreme.
Unfortunately, many justify their laziness to vigilance in that way.
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Originally Posted by joshSCH
I didn't say that you were bound to accept their decisions.
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Originally Posted by joshSCH
Just that your vote went towards forfeiting freedoms.
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Naw, we are slowly becoming more and more liberalized.. The Socialist States of America aint too far off. Due to this protection v. freedoms loophole, our politicians are slowly taking our rights from us. What with hidden street cameras, the government spying on our conversations, confiscating our laptops, spying on us through social networks such as facebook and myspace, etc..
The liberals are beginning their global takeover by spreading their propaganda about inequality, global warming, health concerns, etc.
Last edited by sk8ndestroy14; Feb 2nd, 2008 at 10:29 pm.
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Originally Posted by Aia
Yes, you didn't.
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Originally Posted by joshSCH
.. However, you did make a decision indirectly. Your congress representatives voted on the patriot act for you. They voted to restrict your freedoms and you voted for them.. Thus, you did indirectly vote to forfeit your freedoms.
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Originally Posted by Aia
Sad, that in the beginning the voting process was to elect a representative that would ensure the protection of that freedom established.
Last edited by joshSCH; Feb 2nd, 2008 at 10:32 pm.
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Originally Posted by sk8ndestroy14
Those are the types of things liberals are against. It's the patriot act that allows much of this anway. And considering our last eight years of presidency, supreme court, cia, etc. we are EXTREMELY far from socialism and much closer to a neo-fascist type state.
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No, liberals are against hidden street cameras, spying on our conversations, confiscating our laptops, and spying on us through social networks.
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