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hey joytech this issue is keeping me up
this didnt click till now, in an earlier post you were able to get the computer on with the hard drive disconected, so maybe you do have a good mobo.
ok start from the begining and document everything you do so you know what you have tried and not tried.
1. disconect everything
2.install your fans, ram, and if you have video on the mobo use that, if not install the video card.
3. connect the monitor
4. turn the computer on
does it work, turn it off and on serveral times make sure,
5. assuming the computer works go into BIOS and set the defaults and save the changes
6. now connect the hard drive if you are using a 40pin IDE cable make sure that the red strip is facing pin 1 on the drive and the mobo, make sure the jumpers are set correctly on the drive make sure you have the correct end of the cable connected to the mobo and to the drive.
there are several pictures all over the internet if you need help with that.
7. if you are sure that everything is correct at this point and the computer does not boot then there are several options to take from this point.
a. the drive is bad, replace it
b. the MBR is corrupt, fix it
c. one of the files needed to boot windows is corrupt, copy new files from cd.
8.if you can boot from a cd then it might be possible to fix
you could repair the MBR by running the FIXMBR command from the recovery console
or you could try to copy some of the start up files from the cd to the drive such as NTLDR
to verify that the mobo is good swap the drive with a known good drive with an operating system on it if you have one if the computer boots then you know for sure the mobo is good, if it does not boot then the disk controller might be bad and you will need a new mobo
this all I can think of for now, follow that step by step let me know what happens.
off to bed for sure
later
this didnt click till now, in an earlier post you were able to get the computer on with the hard drive disconected, so maybe you do have a good mobo.
ok start from the begining and document everything you do so you know what you have tried and not tried.
1. disconect everything
2.install your fans, ram, and if you have video on the mobo use that, if not install the video card.
3. connect the monitor
4. turn the computer on
does it work, turn it off and on serveral times make sure,
5. assuming the computer works go into BIOS and set the defaults and save the changes
6. now connect the hard drive if you are using a 40pin IDE cable make sure that the red strip is facing pin 1 on the drive and the mobo, make sure the jumpers are set correctly on the drive make sure you have the correct end of the cable connected to the mobo and to the drive.
there are several pictures all over the internet if you need help with that.
7. if you are sure that everything is correct at this point and the computer does not boot then there are several options to take from this point.
a. the drive is bad, replace it
b. the MBR is corrupt, fix it
c. one of the files needed to boot windows is corrupt, copy new files from cd.
8.if you can boot from a cd then it might be possible to fix
you could repair the MBR by running the FIXMBR command from the recovery console
or you could try to copy some of the start up files from the cd to the drive such as NTLDR
to verify that the mobo is good swap the drive with a known good drive with an operating system on it if you have one if the computer boots then you know for sure the mobo is good, if it does not boot then the disk controller might be bad and you will need a new mobo
this all I can think of for now, follow that step by step let me know what happens.
off to bed for sure
later
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wow didnt realize you posted again until i checked my mail a few hours later. i tried all of the above, the same happens even when no hardware is connected, just the basics to ensure proper functionality to enter the bios. i even replaced one ram stick at a time, paired them, had one in at a time ect... im starting to asume a dead mobo. bad news for me as it might take a few weeks to get.
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please help me. i have had my computer for just over a year now and when i went to turn on my computer after school, its fans went to max rpm and only no input signal appeared. then after a few attempts to reboot, it was working again. but it's doing this every time i try to restart or turn on after shutting down.
i know its not a PSU problem because i replaced it with a 300W one that came with my pc. (took out the 8800 first of course)
also these problems started when my pc would not allow me to use a PCI-E card like my 8800 anymore it just started using onboard
here are my specs, (what i know)
Mobo: some sort of ASUS AM2
CPU: AMD Athlon X2 +5200 Dual-Core (2.7GHz each core)
Graphics: Nvidia GeForce 800GTS BFG OC
PSU: Codegen 530W
HDD: 2 IDE hard drives (80GB) (40GB)
RAM: 1.7GB 600MHz
OS: Windows XP Home edition x32
Fans: 2
I personally think this might be either a POST, CMOS or motherboard error but no error beeps are excreted by the internal speaker.
if you like, i will be on MSN most of the time and will be listening to any suggestions
phillippirikahu@hotmail.com
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thank you for the help, i shall try the RAM swapping. but theres a problem, i forgot to list i have 3 512MB sticks and a single 256MB stick.
and that i have had these RAM stick's at minimum for 8 months
AND its hard to start the pc at all because 70% of the time it doesn't POST. just displays no input signal as soon as i go to turn it on, the above post tells of the fans at max RPM until i restart it enough times in order for it to POST and boot up, one mistake i made was with my AMD Athlon X2 +5200 (2.7GHz each core) i forgot to plug in the fan. but it works out well because im using the same CPU to post this message.
by the way... Safemode shall not prevail in a hardware error ='-S
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wow didnt realize you posted again until i checked my mail a few hours later. i tried all of the above, the same happens even when no hardware is connected, just the basics to ensure proper functionality to enter the bios. i even replaced one ram stick at a time, paired them, had one in at a time ect... im starting to asume a dead mobo. bad news for me as it might take a few weeks to get.
first are all the ram stick the same clock speed and compatible with each other.
next are you using 300W PSu or 530W. what PCI-e card do you have attached to the pc.
remove the ram stick, clean each and user Only the 256 to boot the pc. then shut down and do the same for ONE of the 512. (Remove the 256 first) next verify you PCI-3 is getting enough power. if you remove all item and start up bare bone then the problem points to you MObo. let us know what happened
ok joytech
now we have established that your computer will not work with just the essentials
your next step should be to take all the ram out and install them back one at a time. so install just one stick and turn the computer on.
does it work?
if not that stick could be bad try another one.
if it did work leave it in and install one more and then turn the computer on.
repeate this process to identify if you have bad ram
if the computer still does not work after that the only thing left is the mobo it will need to be replaced
now we have established that your computer will not work with just the essentials
your next step should be to take all the ram out and install them back one at a time. so install just one stick and turn the computer on.
does it work?
if not that stick could be bad try another one.
if it did work leave it in and install one more and then turn the computer on.
repeate this process to identify if you have bad ram
if the computer still does not work after that the only thing left is the mobo it will need to be replaced
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ok joytech
now we have established that your computer will not work with just the essentials
your next step should be to take all the ram out and install them back one at a time. so install just one stick and turn the computer on.
does it work?
if not that stick could be bad try another one.
if it did work leave it in and install one more and then turn the computer on.
repeate this process to identify if you have bad ram
if the computer still does not work after that the only thing left is the mobo it will need to be replaced
I am getting very worried that our asumptions of my motherboard might be right, i live in Sydney N.S.W and even here it may take weeks to get another motherboard.
Perhaps dust? Also i have been hearing a clicking sound from behind the CPU, maybe the back isnt sheilded and some dust is causing arching thus causing a short?
when i get the approperiate tools i will get back to everyone.
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base on the issue i have highlighted in red, those are the items you need to pay close attention to.
first are all the ram stick the same clock speed and compatible with each other.
next are you using 300W PSu or 530W. what PCI-e card do you have attached to the pc.
remove the ram stick, clean each and user Only the 256 to boot the pc. then shut down and do the same for ONE of the 512. (Remove the 256 first) next verify you PCI-3 is getting enough power. if you remove all item and start up bare bone then the problem points to you MObo. let us know what happened
RAM: All the RAM sticks are compatiable with each other, secondly they do NOT have to be paired on this motherboard as it has to with most others, third yes they are all the same clock speed and are designed to be run at 633MHz, the mobo just underclocked them for more stability.
PSU: so far, i have taken out the 530W PSU and 8800GTS, the PSU currently installed is powerful enough to power the system, 300W.
PCI-E: none currently installed b/c mobo not detecting it. not even my 7600GS!
Bare bone results: i have tried this twice, looks very bad on my end. still had to hold down the power buttons about 20 times just to get it to POST so i could enter the BIOS and check everything there.
looks like my mobo. i will find out at the end of the week when i go to price a new one, perhaps buy one.
thanks everyone for the tips!
Last edited by joytech22; Mar 25th, 2008 at 1:56 am.
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yeah dust will kill a mobo. well if you are positive that the ram is good then it has to be the mobo. best of luck
like sometimes how i go to turn on the socket and all of a sudden the pc comes to life.
are they linked to dust arching electricity to a power thing that turns on the pc? but also at the same time related to PCI-E problems?
maybe just maybe, the mobo is fine and the dust is just causing some hickups. i havent cleaned the back of the mobo since i baught it.
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