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Originally Posted by jwenting 
and don't buy any book calling itself "for dummies".
I'm a student. If my statements seem too absolute, feel free to coat them with "In my opinion..." or "I believe...".
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Originally Posted by CoolGamer48
I don't know about that.... The first real language I learned was C++ and it was from a "for dummies" book.
in that case you didn't learn it properly. You learned a few tricks maybe, but nothing in depth and no proper introduction in the philosophy behind the language, paradigms, etc. etc.
Syntax is easy to learn, but it's not programming.
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Originally Posted by jwenting
in that case you didn't learn it properly. You learned a few tricks maybe, but nothing in depth and no proper introduction in the philosophy behind the language, paradigms, etc. etc.
Syntax is easy to learn, but it's not programming.
I'm a student. If my statements seem too absolute, feel free to coat them with "In my opinion..." or "I believe...".
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Originally Posted by jwenting
The exact "tools" you learn in school are utterly irrelevant for getting a job as a programmer.
A green as grass junior grasshopper programmer like you'll be is expected to know exactly NOTHING of value when starting his first job, except knowing how to keep his mouth shut and do as its (you're not a human being yet) told while keeping its ears open to soak up whatever it's being taught by its masters.
And do not expect to land that "game programmer" job right out of school. That's an advanced field.
At most you'll land a job doing other things at a game development shop and work your way up.
Also remember that the vast majority of "game programmers" suffer from extreme burnout and mental problems within a few years, at 35 most are either raving mad and incapable of any work or have left the business for other jobs.
Some even end up dead from being severely overworked, 20+ hour workdays are the norm in many game shops especially near release deadlines.
Gosh...thats horrible. Poor chaps they give joy to gamers and themself live a tough life.
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Originally Posted by CoolGamer48
So what is programming? Why was the way I learned it improper? What's an example of something you doubt I learned from the book?
Hey ....Chill CoolGamer.. You just plan a little on what sort of graphics project you are going to start working and then just continue with it. If what ever u planned you are doing it almost smoothly with less hurdles that means your learning was not improper. And if you find that you just cannot continue with this project means your learning was proper.
Well thats a good test.
And something creating , challenging and progressive too.All the best!
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Looking at myself, a person who 'enjoys game programming'; I don't have an issue with 20+ hour days, intensive work, stress and/or overwork. I enjoy being constantly occupied with something, and am absolutely bored unless I'm working on something. In a way, I play a game that's more fun than anything I could possibly make or release in development itself.
And, I started off raving mad, so it's not like I'm losing anything.
Don't feel sorry for people who have this mindset, I feel sorry for people who don't ^_-
And, I started off raving mad, so it's not like I'm losing anything.
Don't feel sorry for people who have this mindset, I feel sorry for people who don't ^_-
Plato forgot the nullahedron..
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Originally Posted by MattEvans
Looking at myself, a person who 'enjoys game programming'; I don't have an issue with 20+ hour days, intensive work, stress and/or overwork. I enjoy being constantly occupied with something, and am absolutely bored unless I'm working on something. In a way, I play a game that's more fun than anything I could possibly make or release in development itself.
And, I started off raving mad, so it's not like I'm losing anything.
Don't feel sorry for people who have this mindset, I feel sorry for people who don't ^_-
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he's still young. When he gets older and needs more than 30 minutes of sleep a week he'll think differently 
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Originally Posted by jwenting
he's still young. When he gets older and needs more than 30 minutes of sleep a week he'll think differently
gosh...Jwenting ...May be with time as also get perfection and be able to work more in less time and hence start getting more time to sleep, what he require!
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If all the people who program games hate it, why do they stay there? I mean games still come out - there have to be some people who don't leave for different jobs (or die).
I'm a student. If my statements seem too absolute, feel free to coat them with "In my opinion..." or "I believe...".
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