•
•
•
•
What is DaniWeb IT Discussion Community?
You're currently browsing the Geeks' Lounge section within the Coffee House category of DaniWeb, a massive community of 391,604 software developers, web developers, Internet marketers, and tech gurus who are all enthusiastic about making contacts, networking, and learning from each other. In fact, there are 2,603 IT professionals currently interacting right now! Registration is free, only takes a minute and lets you enjoy all of the interactive features of the site.
Please support our Geeks' Lounge advertiser:
Views: 2056 | Replies: 44
 |
•
•
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 3,337
Reputation: 
Rep Power: 8
Solved Threads: 18
John Twelve Hawks has written some very good books that do deal with this form of prison. I read them awhile back and if you enjoy reading his style of fiction I urge anyone to read them. The author himself is quite interesting.
A room without books is like a body without a soul.
Facts are meaningless. They can be used to prove anything that is even remotely true.
Go then, there are other worlds than these.
Facts are meaningless. They can be used to prove anything that is even remotely true.
Go then, there are other worlds than these.
•
•
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Seattle, WA, USA
Posts: 707
Reputation:
Rep Power: 6
Solved Threads: 7
Master Poster
•
•
•
•
Originally Posted by jasimp 
John Twelve Hawks has written some very good books that do deal with this form of prison. I read them awhile back and if you enjoy reading his style of fiction I urge anyone to read them. The author himself is quite interesting.
I just heard of an Indie group in the UK that had a new album to release but no money to produce a video so they performed for free in public around Manchester and then submitted Freedom of Information requests for the public tapes and built their video from that. The poor guy said that he does not know how many times they had to do the show for free to get a complete production because many of the cameras were dummies, sometimes the FOI request did not go through. Here is a story about them: The Get Out Clause
If only ignorance were painful....
GrimJack
AMD a64 3200+ 939
ASUS A8V Deluxe
G-force 7300GT/512meg AGP
GrimJack
AMD a64 3200+ 939
ASUS A8V Deluxe
G-force 7300GT/512meg AGP
•
•
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Seattle, WA, USA
Posts: 707
Reputation:
Rep Power: 6
Solved Threads: 7
Master Poster
I just found the youtube video The Get Out Clause made - wow, bus cam, taxi cam, bridge cam - pretty cool idea
If only ignorance were painful....
GrimJack
AMD a64 3200+ 939
ASUS A8V Deluxe
G-force 7300GT/512meg AGP
GrimJack
AMD a64 3200+ 939
ASUS A8V Deluxe
G-force 7300GT/512meg AGP
•
•
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Seattle, WA, USA
Posts: 707
Reputation:
Rep Power: 6
Solved Threads: 7
Master Poster
I found this article on the Freakonomics blog; The city of Dallas budgeted for a lot of income from their 'red light cameras' and darned if people stopped blowing through the red lights (like by 50%).
If only ignorance were painful....
GrimJack
AMD a64 3200+ 939
ASUS A8V Deluxe
G-force 7300GT/512meg AGP
GrimJack
AMD a64 3200+ 939
ASUS A8V Deluxe
G-force 7300GT/512meg AGP
•
•
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 5,646
Reputation:
Rep Power: 18
Solved Threads: 191
Not just Dallas. Dutch police are actually given financial targets to meet each year for traffic violations, split by category (speeding, red lights, etc.) as well as targets for impounded vehicles (which are sold for profit by the government), impounded driver's licenses (which mean someone needs to take another driving test, fee to go to the government), etc.
The grand total of all those fines is something like several hundred million Euro per year, a decent sized chunk of the total government budget.
And they still maintain that those fines are only "to promote road safety by making people think twice about violating the law".
The grand total of all those fines is something like several hundred million Euro per year, a decent sized chunk of the total government budget.
And they still maintain that those fines are only "to promote road safety by making people think twice about violating the law".
42 Private messages asking for help will be ignored
In the frozen land of Nador they were forced to eat Steve's iMinstrels, and there was much rejoicing.
In the frozen land of Nador they were forced to eat Steve's iMinstrels, and there was much rejoicing.
•
•
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Bangalore, India
Posts: 3,098
Reputation:
Rep Power: 8
Solved Threads: 238
•
•
•
•
Originally Posted by jwenting
Not just Dallas. Dutch police are actually given financial targets to meet each year for traffic violations, split by category (speeding, red lights, etc.) as well as targets for impounded vehicles (which are sold for profit by the government), impounded driver's licenses (which mean someone needs to take another driving test, fee to go to the government), etc.
The grand total of all those fines is something like several hundred million Euro per year, a decent sized chunk of the total government budget.
And they still maintain that those fines are only "to promote road safety by making people think twice about violating the law".
Wow ! no wonder Dutch people follow traffic rules so obediently ! And, I guess, people on bicycle are given the highest priority ?
Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.
*PM asking for help will be ignored*
*PM asking for help will be ignored*
•
•
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: the Netherlands
Posts: 1,562
Reputation:
Rep Power: 8
Solved Threads: 158
•
•
•
•
Originally Posted by nav33n
Wow ! no wonder Dutch people follow traffic rules so obediently ! And, I guess, people on bicycle are given the highest priority ?
In some cases: yes. In the town were I live we have 'bicycle-zones'. That's means you're welcome with your car, but you have to let every bicyclist before you.
There used to be (or is, I'm not sure) even a rule that when a bike and a car have an accident, the bicyclist is always right, no matter what.
A month ago I got a fine for speeding. I was driving 55 Km/h (34 mph) where 50 (31) was allowed and it cost me 30 euro's (about 45 dollar)
do NOT pm me for help, it makes me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry...
•
•
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Bangalore, India
Posts: 3,098
Reputation:
Rep Power: 8
Solved Threads: 238
•
•
•
•
In some cases: yes. In the town were I live we have 'bicycle-zones'. That's means you're welcome with your car, but you have to let every bicyclist before you.
ah! Thats why everybody stops when I arrive !
I like it ! Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.
*PM asking for help will be ignored*
*PM asking for help will be ignored*
•
•
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Old Hampshire, Old England (LOL)
Posts: 11,937
Reputation:
Rep Power: 30
Solved Threads: 264
You ever read 1984?
the fear isnt that you are constantly watched, the fear is that at any time someone might just be watching
the fear isnt that you are constantly watched, the fear is that at any time someone might just be watching
TRY MY SUGGESTIONS AT YOUR OWN RISK!
james.bennet1@ntlworld.com
james.bennet1@ntlworld.com
•
•
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 3,337
Reputation:
Rep Power: 8
Solved Threads: 18
•
•
•
•
Originally Posted by jbennet
the fear isnt that you are constantly watched, the fear is that at any time someone might just be watching
Which is the whole point of a Panopticon prison and yeah I read 1984. Good book.
A room without books is like a body without a soul.
Facts are meaningless. They can be used to prove anything that is even remotely true.
Go then, there are other worlds than these.
Facts are meaningless. They can be used to prove anything that is even remotely true.
Go then, there are other worlds than these.
|
•
•
•
•
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
•
•
•
•
•
•
•
•
DaniWeb Geeks' Lounge Marketplace
Linear Mode
Other Threads in the Geeks' Lounge Forum
- Previous Thread: Hi all : Advice
- Next Thread: For those that live outside of Boston...
