•
•
•
•
What is DaniWeb IT Discussion Community?
You're currently browsing the Software Developers' Lounge section within the Software Development category of DaniWeb, a massive community of 391,609 software developers, web developers, Internet marketers, and tech gurus who are all enthusiastic about making contacts, networking, and learning from each other. In fact, there are 2,615 IT professionals currently interacting right now! Registration is free, only takes a minute and lets you enjoy all of the interactive features of the site.
Please support our Software Developers' Lounge advertiser:
Views: 1272 | Replies: 21
 |
•
•
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Phnom Penh, Cambodia
Posts: 393
Reputation: 
Rep Power: 5
Solved Threads: 34
Posting Whiz
I have argued with this guy for hours. In this conversation, I am Silence and he is link
[22:24] <link> Silence, how many times do you hack? [22:24] <Silence> link: hack me if you can [22:24] <link> I thought you were a programmer, yet you told me to hack you... [22:24] <link> you must be crazy... [22:25] <link> lemme hack you then... give me your programming language... CGI? [22:27] <link> it never does matter to a software engineer... [22:27] <link> Silence, you don't know anything about hacking... because a software engineer wouldn't think hacking isn't what you think... [22:28] <Silence> I assume that hacking in what you mention is about finding the weak hole of a software [22:28] <Silence> I think you mean cracking [22:28] <link> Silence, what? You know nothing... [22:29] <Silence> link: so you know everything [22:30] <link> and you do know nothing... [22:32] <link> Silence, you're telling me that hacking is finding the weak security hole? [22:33] <link> I'm talking about programming languages not finding weakness of the computer [22:33] <Silence> link: I was confused whether you are talking hacking in term of what... I assume that you are hacking a software and use it for free or whatsoever... because you never mention in which field you refer to [22:34] <link> Silence, lemme repeat. you do know nothing.. [22:34] <Silence> link: so you know more than me? [22:35] <link> Silence, I'm skeptical of you... [22:35] <link> please go learn your C Sharp again... [22:35] <Silence> link: sorry dude, I learn C [22:36] <link> It's called C sharp... [22:36] <Silence> C, C++, and C# are difference [22:37] <link> I asked you... how many times do you hack [22:37] <link> yet you gave me a negative idea [22:37] <Silence> link: hack has alot of term [22:38] <Silence> lol... I assuem you misuse your word as well [22:41] <Silence> and link can you identify your word hack... i think you mis-use it [22:41] <link> you even spell the word "misuse" wrong... [22:43] <link> Silence, go learn more...and ask me about that... [22:43] <Silence> link: so i assume you know nothing as well because you fail to provide the defintion of what you asking me maybe you are unsure of what you are saying too [22:44] <link> I don't think you would be a good software engineer since you like to assume too much... [22:44] <link> oh please... [22:45] <link> look at how you spelled the word "misuse"... [22:46] <Silence> link: misspell didn't mean I don't know about programming [22:46] <link> hacking means to write, Silence... [22:46] <link> I'm sorry... we don't use the term like you [22:47] <link> you're a retard... [22:49] <Silence> link: I don't think it is right [22:50] <Silence> I learn C and you said it called C-sharp [22:50] <link> that's still called C sharp... [22:50] <Silence> where C and C-sharp are different [22:51] <link> how can you say C sharp is different from C? [22:52] <Silence> C-sharp is developed from C++, and C++ is developed from C [22:52] <Silence> C don't have OOP [22:52] <Silence> C-sharp has OOP [22:52] <link> seriously... we would laugh at you for saying hacking is to find the weak security hole [22:52] <Silence> link: because hacking doesn't mean writing in programming [22:56] <link> hack means to write... [22:56] <link> not what you think... [22:56] <Silence> that is what you think [22:59] <link> Silence, you're not even a software engineer... look. You don't even know what hacking means... [22:59] <Silence> link: lol at least I know that hacking doesn't mean writing [23:00] <Silence> link: I have living in a programming environment for 5 years yet I have heard anything that hacking = writing [23:00] <link> Silence, you need to compile yourself with another coder... [23:02] <link> Silence, you do know nothing. Oh, please. Stop being such a braggart. [23:03] <Silence> link, sorry hacking isn't what you think [23:05] <link> Silence knows nothing about hacking.. [23:05] <Silence> link: proof please [23:09] <link> You said you wanted a reliable proof... [23:09] <link> go learn your English again. [23:20] <link> it's already apparent that you do know nothing about hacking... [23:20] <link> you don't know English? [23:21] <Silence> link: no proof? [23:24] <badboyz> it's getting lame [23:25] <link> badboyz, Silence is an example of "lame" [23:25] <Silence> link: hm.. do I? [23:26] <link> Silence, you don't, but you are... [23:27] <Silence> link: I know it is shameful for you to admit that you know nothing but you just act as if you are an expert in computer [23:27] <link> what? Silence, you do know nothing about hacking... [23:27] <link> it's apparent so... [23:28] <link> You only make me laugh. [23:34] <link> Silence, you need know what hacking means, if you want to be a good coder. [23:36] <Silence> link: good coder is not about knowing many stupid words, but the problem-solving skill and the logical-thinking skill [23:36] <Silence> sorry dude but you made me laugh again [23:36] <link> Silence, you do know nothing about hacking... [23:36] <link> It's apparent so... I said [23:37] <link> Silence, lemme repeat. You're just too unethical about coding... or hacking... [23:37] <link> yes, it does mean you don't know anything... [23:39] <link> That's what I call a "retard".... [23:40] <Silence> link: you act as if you know everything and an expert but your manner and each line you said make me realize that you are not [23:40] <link> no, hacking is so common in our programming language. [23:40] <link> You guys misuse the term. [23:40] <Silence> in your programming langyage, not mine [23:43] <Silence> I have been googling for your hacking=writing=programming for 2 hours yet there is no source that state that it is true [23:43] <link> I would call you a "dumb ass" [23:44] <Silence> link: I think it is not common enough dude lol [23:44] <link> You're not common to us. Not at all. [23:45] <Silence> link: hm... I think it's such a waste to argue with you... I don't even know how well you can code [23:46] <link> Silence, why do you need to google for, if you said you're a coder? [23:46] <link> Seriously, you're just being a retard. [23:46] <Silence> link: I try to find a proof for your hacking=writing [23:47] <Silence> but sorry dude... there is no source to support it [23:47] <link> Silence, hacking doesn't need proof. I don't recall hacking needs proof before. [23:49] <link> Silence, are you still being skeptical? [23:49] <link> you're not such a coder... [23:49] <link> You're being tenacious... [23:51] <link> Silence, seriously, I never met a coder like you. [23:51] <life> silence keep it silence [23:52] <Silence> link: I have never seen such a programmer like you [23:52] <link> I recall telling you that your English was bad. [23:55] <link> Why do you depend on google? [23:55] <Silence> link: if it is common, then it can be founded [23:56] <Silence> and don't say you don't use google [23:56] <Silence> link: it is common [23:56] <Silence> using google is not common? [23:58] <link> Nope. Silence, get out of my face since you don't know anything about hacking.
Yesterday is a history, tomorrow is a mystery, today is a gift.
Behind every smile is a tear.
Visal .In
Behind every smile is a tear.
Visal .In
•
•
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 6,017
Reputation: 
Rep Power: 26
Solved Threads: 414
Wow, that guy looks like a lot of fun. What IRC server/channel was that in? 
But yes, hacking can mean writing. There are multiple definitions of "hacking", and one of those is skillfully writing programs (or kludges, depending on the context).
But yes, hacking can mean writing. There are multiple definitions of "hacking", and one of those is skillfully writing programs (or kludges, depending on the context).
Member of: Beautiful Code Club.
•
•
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Phnom Penh, Cambodia
Posts: 393
Reputation:
Rep Power: 5
Solved Threads: 34
Posting Whiz
It was in irc.uirc.net in #cambodia. I asked him to provide me the proof that hacking can mean writting. Eveni if hacking means writing, he shouldn't insult me like that because knowing that word doesn't mean he is far better than me.
Nature, your new avatar looks cool ^_^
Nature, your new avatar looks cool ^_^
Last edited by invisal : Jun 30th, 2008 at 1:54 pm.
Yesterday is a history, tomorrow is a mystery, today is a gift.
Behind every smile is a tear.
Visal .In
Behind every smile is a tear.
Visal .In
•
•
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 6,017
Reputation:
Rep Power: 26
Solved Threads: 414
>he shouldn't insult me like that because knowing
>that word doesn't mean he is far better than me.
Welcome to the web. If you let losers like that bother you, you're better off staying in the real world where people are afraid of getting punched in the face for insults like that.
>Nature, your new avatar looks cool ^_^
Nature?
>that word doesn't mean he is far better than me.
Welcome to the web. If you let losers like that bother you, you're better off staying in the real world where people are afraid of getting punched in the face for insults like that.
>Nature, your new avatar looks cool ^_^
Nature?
Member of: Beautiful Code Club.
•
•
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Phnom Penh, Cambodia
Posts: 393
Reputation:
Rep Power: 5
Solved Threads: 34
Posting Whiz
•
•
•
•
Originally Posted by Narue 
>he shouldn't insult me like that because knowing
>that word doesn't mean he is far better than me.
Welcome to the web. If you let losers like that bother you, you're better off staying in the real world where people are afraid of getting punched in the face for insults like that.
>Nature, your new avatar looks cool ^_^
Nature?
Narue and Nature looks alike
Yesterday is a history, tomorrow is a mystery, today is a gift.
Behind every smile is a tear.
Visal .In
Behind every smile is a tear.
Visal .In
•
•
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 48
Reputation:
Rep Power: 1
Solved Threads: 2
Light Poster
Paul Graham talks about hackers as artists. You should google his essays, they are fantastic.
New on Ken Sharpe:
Will your next project fail?
Are you Addicted to Information?
Don't add Value. Add Meta Value!
Will your next project fail?
Are you Addicted to Information?
Don't add Value. Add Meta Value!
•
•
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 32
Reputation:
Rep Power: 0
Solved Threads: 0
Light Poster
well some stuff that you said in the chat log doesn't make much sense.
For example I think he was talking about finding web site exploits to "hack" into the website.
You said he was cracking. Cracking is used for downloaded programs where you bypass the security measures of a program to use it for free. Done mostly with assembly language.
He was talking about cgi or perl scripts.
Well he was wrong about c and c sharp being the same thing but other than that I think you both were pissed off and stop thinking logically.
For example I think he was talking about finding web site exploits to "hack" into the website.
You said he was cracking. Cracking is used for downloaded programs where you bypass the security measures of a program to use it for free. Done mostly with assembly language.
He was talking about cgi or perl scripts.
Well he was wrong about c and c sharp being the same thing but other than that I think you both were pissed off and stop thinking logically.
•
•
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: me::house
Posts: 908
Reputation:
Rep Power: 3
Solved Threads: 23
Posting Shark
That guy was quite the ignorant fool.
He says you know nothing, yet he says C and C# are the same.
He says you know nothing, yet he says C and C# are the same.
Toshiba M115 ● 1.49 GB DDR-2 RAM ● 1.6 GHz Centrino Duo ● 80GB HDD ● Windows XP Media Center Edition
•
•
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Phnom Penh, Cambodia
Posts: 393
Reputation:
Rep Power: 5
Solved Threads: 34
Posting Whiz
•
•
•
•
Originally Posted by TheBuzzer
You said he was cracking. Cracking is used for downloaded programs where you bypass the security measures of a program to use it for free. Done mostly with assembly language..
Software cracking is the modification of software to remove protection methods: copy prevention, trial/demo version, serial number, hardware key, CD check or software annoyances like nag screens and adware. (Wikipedia)
Yesterday is a history, tomorrow is a mystery, today is a gift.
Behind every smile is a tear.
Visal .In
Behind every smile is a tear.
Visal .In
•
•
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 32
Reputation:
Rep Power: 0
Solved Threads: 0
Light Poster
•
•
•
•
Originally Posted by invisal
As you know Perl and CGI are script languages, it can easily be cracked. At first I though he talked about hacking the computer, but then when he said in programming, I though that he mean crack. Since cracking a software mean remove the protection from using full-version. I know some CGI code trying to protect by encrypt their code so that you're unable to remove their protection. I think it make sense to me.Software cracking is the modification of software to remove protection methods: copy prevention, trial/demo version, serial number, hardware key, CD check or software annoyances like nag screens and adware. (Wikipedia)
Well perl and cgi are script languages but they run on a server. the output result that user sees when connecting to a web server is not the same as the code itself. So in order to get the code itself one got to figure out how to exploit the cgi scripts running to download the real source of it and not the client side result. After they can look at the cgi script for stuff like mysql connection code for the mysql username and password.
What i feel are terms for hack is when starting with no code or cheating in a game.
Crack is having the exe or the code and bypass security measures.
I may be wrong but thats what I feel those terms are.
Oh ya and script kiddies are people that use exploits program by someone else.
|
•
•
•
•
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
•
•
•
•
•
•
•
•
DaniWeb Software Developers' Lounge Marketplace
Linear Mode
•
•
•
•
article bbc business cia credit cards crime cult of the dead cow dani web data dns ebay engineering forensic google government hack hacking harry potter help iphone iplayer michael knight network news paypal persuade phishing power removable devices rfid search security social telephone terrorism usb voip white hat hacker
- What's the HARDEST program you've written? (Computer Science and Software Design)
- Complete Noob. Reading/Writing to/from Textfile (C++)
- Beware writing code without a plan (C)
- Virus Programming (Assembly)
- Shell script for identifying FS TYPE and mounting via LOOP device (Shell Scripting)
- Shmoo and hello (Geeks' Lounge)
- xp passwords (Windows NT / 2000 / XP / 2003)
Other Threads in the Software Developers' Lounge Forum
- Previous Thread: Confusion
- Next Thread: Can u test pseudocode?
