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I used to be a PC guy. The reason i converted to macs is because one day i decided to try out leopard on my PC. I researched how to make a PC run OS X. Finally one day I found out how to make a hackingtosh.
Hackingtosh is a regular PC running OS X. this is the best way to own a "mac" with out hitting the wallet too hard. I thought it was really fun turning my PC into a "Mac" or Hackingtosh.
I thank the OS X community for introducing me to Mac's
If you own and old mac and would like to upgrade to the newer machines or simply try out leopard with out loosing an arm you could build your own hackingtosh for less than $300 bucks and have identical hardware as the mac pro! Just google osx86
good luck to all
Hackingtosh is a regular PC running OS X. this is the best way to own a "mac" with out hitting the wallet too hard. I thought it was really fun turning my PC into a "Mac" or Hackingtosh.
I thank the OS X community for introducing me to Mac's
If you own and old mac and would like to upgrade to the newer machines or simply try out leopard with out loosing an arm you could build your own hackingtosh for less than $300 bucks and have identical hardware as the mac pro! Just google osx86
good luck to all
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I used to be a PC guy. The reason i converted to macs is because one day i decided to try out leopard on my PC. I researched how to make a PC run OS X. Finally one day I found out how to make a hackingtosh.
Hackingtosh is a regular PC running OS X. this is the best way to own a "mac" with out hitting the wallet too hard. I thought it was really fun turning my PC into a "Mac" or Hackingtosh.
I thank the OS X community for introducing me to Mac's
If you own and old mac and would like to upgrade to the newer machines or simply try out leopard with out loosing an arm you could build your own hackingtosh for less than $300 bucks and have identical hardware as the mac pro! Just google osx86
good luck to all
um, it's Hackintosh....and probably not wise to advertise that you have Mac software on your pc, for legal reasons; never know who'll take notice...
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Congratulations!, making yourself a hackingtosh is one of the more satisfying things in the computing world.
Using a hackingtosh is more less in a legally-grey area. I think it's not tecnically illegal, but there are many people that don't think is -at least- moral.
If you purchased a license, then it's in the grey area...but most simply get an iso off the torrents, and that is illegal.
Not that it would stop me from doing it, lol...I just wouldnt advertise it.
Would reading some of the OS X software license agreement help spell things out a bit clearer for you?
Is your "hackintosh" an "Apple-labeled machine"? Nope, not by a long shot. Copy-protections in place on the OS X disks that you buy at the store prevent you from installing it on a non-Apple computer, so to get it working, you either have to a) download a hacked version of OS X, or b) hack it yourself. Either way, you're breaking even more clauses of the agreement (as if one wasn't enough). 
I wouldn't call that a 'grey' area of the law.
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2. Permitted License Uses and Restrictions.
A. This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled computer at a time. This License does not allow the Apple Software to exist on more than one computer at a time, and you may not make the Apple Software available over a network where it could be used by multiple computers at the same time. You may make one copy of the Apple Software (excluding the Boot ROM code) in machine-readable form for backup purposes only; provided that the backup copy must include all copyright or other proprietary notices contained on the original.
C. Except as and only to the extent permitted in this License and by applicable law, you may not copy, decompile, reverse engineer, disassemble, modify, or create derivative works of the Apple Software or any part thereof. THE APPLE SOFTWARE IS NOT INTENDED FOR USE IN THE OPERATION OF NUCLEAR FACILITIES, AIRCRAFT NAVIGATION OR COMMUNICATION SYSTEMS, AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL SYSTEMS, LIFE SUPPORT MACHINES OR OTHER EQUIPMENT IN WHICH THE FAILURE OF THE APPLE SOFTWARE COULD LEAD TO DEATH, PERSONAL INJURY, OR SEVERE PHYSICAL OR ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE.
3. Transfer. You may not rent, lease, lend, redistribute or sublicense the Apple Software. You may, however, make a one-time permanent transfer of all of your license rights to the Apple Software (in its original form as provided by Apple) to another party, provided that: (a) the transfer must include all of the Apple Software, including all its component parts, original media, printed materials and this License; (b) you do not retain any copies of the Apple Software, full or partial, including copies stored on a computer or other storage device; and (c) the party receiving the Apple Software reads and agrees to accept the terms and conditions of this License. You may not rent, lease, lend, redistribute, sublicense or transfer any Apple Software that has been modified or replaced under Section 2B above.
I wouldn't call that a 'grey' area of the law.
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What exactly is an Apple-labeled machine? Can anyone label a machine as "Apple"?
Perhaps a machine labeled by Apple? Actually, the license that I pulled off the web was a bit old; here's the updated section 2.A from the Tiger license agreement:
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A. This License allows you to install, use and run one (1) copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled computer at a time. You agree not to install, use or run the Apple Software on any non-Apple-labeled computer, or to enable others to do so.
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Throw one of those apple stickers on it, the ones that come with ipods. Problem solved, they left too much room for interpretation, a good lawyer could fight this case.
Hmm, that only leaves, oh, software piracy. Remember that off-the-shelf copies of OS X have protection in place which prevents itself from running on non-Apple licensed computers (and even if you did manage to reverse-engineer a legal copy that you bought, you'd be in violation of section 2.C, see above.)
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Why is making a kernal extension allowed then? I would argue that by not enforcing their policy in the EULA in cases like that, they wave their rights to it and that they agree that it is unenforceable.
In the end, apple doesn't care so much about an individual doing this than a company (psystar?).
Still anything is possible with a good lawyer.
In the end, apple doesn't care so much about an individual doing this than a company (psystar?).
Still anything is possible with a good lawyer.
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