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why don't we have a toll-free number where everyone calls in, enters SSN, and votes? Too simple for the jerks to jack us around?
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Sure, that's a great idea...
until you actually think about it for more than one second.
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Fodder.

[edit]Heh.
When Obama met with ACORN leaders in November, he reminded them of his history with ACORN and his beginnings in Illinois as a Project Vote organizer, a nonprofit focused on voter rights and education. Senator Obama said, "I come out of a grassroots organizing background. That's what I did for three and half years before I went to law school. That's the reason I moved to Chicago was to organize. So this is something that I know personally, the work you do, the importance of it. I've been fighting alongside ACORN on issues you care about my entire career. Even before I was an elected official, when I ran Project Vote voter registration drive in Illinois, ACORN was smack dab in the middle of it, and we appreciate your work.”
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The extent of Obama’s ties to Acorn has not been recognized. We find some important details in an article in the journal Social Policy entitled, “Case Study: Chicago — The Barack Obama Campaign,” by Toni Foulkes, a Chicago Acorn leader and a member of Acorn’s National Association Board. The odd thing about this article is that Foulkes is forced to protect the technically “non-partisan” status of Acorn’s get-out-the-vote campaigns, even as he does everything in his power to give Acorn credit for helping its favorite son win the critical 2004 primary that secured Obama the Democratic nomination to the U.S. Senate.

Before giving us a tour of Acorn’s pro-Obama but somehow “non-partisan” election activities, Foulks treats us to a brief history of Obama’s ties to Acorn. While most press accounts imply that Obama just happened to be at the sort of public-interest law firm that would take Acorn’s “motor voter” case, Foulkes claims that Acorn specifically sought out Obama’s representation in the motor voter case, remembering Obama from the days when he worked with Talbot. And while many reports speak of Obama’s post-law school role organizing “Project VOTE” in 1992, Foulkes makes it clear that this project was undertaken in direct partnership with Acorn. Foulkes then stresses Obama’s yearly service as a key figure in Acorn’s leadership-training seminars.

At least a few news reports have briefly mentioned Obama’s role in training Acorn’s leaders, but none that I know of have said what Foulkes reports next: that Obama’s long service with Acorn led many members to serve as the volunteer shock troops of Obama’s early political campaigns — his initial 1996 State Senate campaign, and his failed bid for Congress in 2000 (Foulkes confuses the dates of these two campaigns.) With Obama having personally helped train a new cadre of Chicago Acorn leaders, by the time of Obama’s 2004 U.S. Senate campaign, Obama and Acorn were “old friends,” says Foulkes.
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Heh,heh -- I was not denying the connection, I was denying the reference in the article. Just knowing what ACORN stands for tells you that Obama probably was associated with them (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now,). I understand that some people think that community organizers are talentless, time-wasting hacks but somehow, I think helping low income people stands higher than sucking $230 millions of pork into a suburb of less than 8,000.

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Heh,heh -- I was not denying the connection, I was denying the reference in the article. Just knowing what ACORN stands for tells you that Obama probably was associated with them (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now,). I understand that some people think that community organizers are talentless, time-wasting hacks but somehow, I think helping low income people stands higher than sucking $230 millions of pork into a suburb of less than 8,000.

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If his associations are as he asserts, dandy. I just wish the public could actually look at Obama's "lost years". Honestly, it would be the best and easiest way to put to rest any rumors and innuendo and crap that's been said against him.
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You know JC had quite a few missing years but they wrote a complete bible about him.

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There seems to be a contingent that would like more facts on that individual as well. But since new items in JC's 'paper trail' is less likely, I'd just prefer to settle for the presidential candidates.

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why don't we have a toll-free number where everyone calls in, enters SSN, and votes? Too simple for the jerks to jack us around?
Insanely easy to commit massive election fraud.
Dial, enter someone elses SSN, vote for your candidate, hang up, repeat until time runs out.
No way to block it either, as you have to account for multiple people using the same phoneline...

Even worse, it's easy to program a talking computer to do this at a very high rate, potentially "voting" for your candidate millions of time before real people can get in a few dozen votes.
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Build in voice analysis and you got a perfect system.

Even simple stuff like what's your mother's maiden name could do.
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Ex-DOJ Voting Rights Chief On Bogus Voter Fraud Probe: "There Is No Shame."
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