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Hi i've received some abusive emails on hotmail and i want to know if i can trace it back to the sender's ip. My uncle works in an intelligence agency do i have the right to ask for his help in this?
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Interesting ethical question!
I think it would be okay to ask if he knows how YOU can track back but, unless the offensive e-mailer actually does something that brings him into your uncle's attention officially, I would really be not ask your uncle to do something unethical (possibly even illegal).
I think it would be okay to ask if he knows how YOU can track back but, unless the offensive e-mailer actually does something that brings him into your uncle's attention officially, I would really be not ask your uncle to do something unethical (possibly even illegal).
Imagine a world without hypotheticals....
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If the guy is being abusive i suppose you could report him to his ISP, or if its e.g death threats, the police.
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Posting Whiz in Training
I agree with GrimJack, its ok to ask if he knows how you can trace back that sender.
well.. it is very possible but you might want to check the legal issues about it first 
anyway you easyly get back-tracing softwares to tacrk your senders ip etc.
eMailTrackerPro 8.0d is one you might want to look into
hope i helped
anyway you easyly get back-tracing softwares to tacrk your senders ip etc. eMailTrackerPro 8.0d is one you might want to look into
hope i helped
Copy the full headers of the e-mail and forward them, along with the original message, to abuse@ whatever ISPs the message either originated from or passed through. You may have to do some digging (no pun intended :) to find out what the domain name is, since some MTAs only use IP addresses. nslookup is a good start.
Don't waste time or money buying any software for this, as you don't need to.
Secondly, there are no "legal issues" about reporting abuse. If someone is sending you abusive or threatening email messages, the first place to start with is their ISP's abuse department. Local, State and Federal authorities won't step in to do anything, either because they just don't know how, or something like this isn't important enough to spend their time on.
Trust me, you'll get farther by going to their ISP first. I doubt your uncle will be able to assist too much with this, unless he's a computer security expert with lots of contacts. Just being a "Fed" isn't enough..
Don't waste time or money buying any software for this, as you don't need to.
Secondly, there are no "legal issues" about reporting abuse. If someone is sending you abusive or threatening email messages, the first place to start with is their ISP's abuse department. Local, State and Federal authorities won't step in to do anything, either because they just don't know how, or something like this isn't important enough to spend their time on.
Trust me, you'll get farther by going to their ISP first. I doubt your uncle will be able to assist too much with this, unless he's a computer security expert with lots of contacts. Just being a "Fed" isn't enough..
Last edited by TheOgre; Dec 19th, 2008 at 3:17 pm.
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