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"Can Barack Obama save America?"

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Is that a joke? If anything, Obama will DESTROY America. He's a manipulative socialist *******...
You have no clue what a socialist is so how do you get off calling anyone with a label you can not define?
Obama will expand government every chance he gets.
Er, wtf do you think Bush and his conservatives did?
He will use our current economic recession to his advantage much in the way that Adolf Hitler did in the 30s.
Heh,heh - Hitler - heh,heh don't be a doody-head; Hitler is supposed to be the last resort of an idiot without a clue, not the first attempt.
He will destroy our economy, ruin our overseas reputation, destroy our alliances, and ultimately kill the American way-of-life as we know it.
Bush has already done all that - Obama is here to save America from the Bush era.
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You have no clue what a socialist is so how do you get off calling anyone with a label you can not define?
What? Who says I dont know what a socialist is? You? Thanks, but I can see for myself. Your puny mind has been brainwashed by the Great Messiah.

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Er, wtf do you think Bush and his conservatives did?
Why do you always involve Bush into every conversation? Did I say anything about Bush? For all you know, I dislike Bush. Assuming someone aligns himself with a political party simply because he dislikes the other candidate is naive.

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Heh,heh - Hitler - heh,heh don't be a doody-head; Hitler is supposed to be the last resort of an idiot without a clue, not the first attempt. Bush has already done all that - Obama is here to save America from the Bush era.
LOL. A doody-head, huh? Why, because you cant see the same parallels now as existed in Germany post-WW2? You are a fool. Your optimistic thinking, and blind faith in someone makes you so. You probably know NOTHING about Obama aside from what the lefty media tells you. I suggest that you use that tiny brain of yours and actual do a bit of research.

Obama is ALREADY accelerating both government and our national debt at a rate far greater than Bush did during his 8 years. Obama and the Liberal's TARP plan failed miserably just like their stupid "stimulus" bill will. We do not NEED government intervention: fiscal policy has never worked, and never will.

Also, note how the two biggest portion of our debt is due to Liberal politics: Medicare and Social Security. Wow, what an intelligent idea!

When Ronald Reagan took office, the economy was in an arguably worse state than it is now. However, his strives to limit government, and leave the private sector alone helped us to recover, and enjoy the prosperities of the 90s. Obama plans to do the very opposite... Hmmm.... I wonder what will happen...
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When Ronald Reagan took office, the economy was in an arguably worse state than it is now. However, his strives to limit government, and leave the private sector alone helped us to recover, and enjoy the prosperities of the 90s. Obama plans to do the very opposite... Hmmm.... I wonder what will happen...
As much as I liked Reagan -- his policies of limited government seemed like a good idea at the time, but evidentally failed. We are now seeing the results of that policy and similar deregulation.
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When Ronald Reagan took office, the economy was in an arguably worse state than it is now. However, his strives to limit government, and leave the private sector alone helped us to recover, and enjoy the prosperities of the 90s. Obama plans to do the very opposite... Hmmm.... I wonder what will happen...
Reagan presided over the largest US deficit increase and tax increase ever. He also sold arms to our enemy Iran (Iran Contra affair), an item he conveniently could not remember doing.
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As much as I liked Reagan -- his policies of limited government seemed like a good idea at the time, but evidentally failed. We are now seeing the results of that policy and similar deregulation.
Oh, so our abominable economy now is a result of Reagan's failed policies in the 1980s? Aight so then if everything is delayed by 20 years, then we're about to see how Clinton's policies will affect the economy, right? LOL Idiot..

Our economy is the way it is today because of dumbass Liberals. They forced banking institutions to give risky loans to poor people who could not pay them back.. They allowed Fannie/Freddie to function freely without regulation, and ultimately ****ed us all over simply to give some dumbass poor people who are living on welfare a 10,000 square foot home.

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Reagan presided over the largest US deficit increase and tax increase ever. He also sold arms to our enemy Iran (Iran Contra affair), an item he conveniently could not remember doing.
Reagan single-handedly took down the Soviet Union by outspending them, and proving to the world the superiority of a market economy v. a command economy. Yeah, wars cost money.

And yes... we did train and give weaponry to the Taliban in hopes of them rising up against our former enemies- such as the Soviets.. Not a smart thing to do, but now Obama just wants us to sit back while they nuke us or fire a devastating EMP at us? ;-)
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Wow, Iraqis are so crafty turning armored tractors with pesticide turrets into tanks. lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqBOMBSDQsI
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simply to give some dumbass poor people who are living on welfare a 10,000 square foot home.
I assume you can give examples of this? Sounds like the mythical Cadillac-driving Chicago welfare queen urban legend.
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I assume you can give examples of this? Sounds like the mythical Cadillac-driving Chicago welfare queen urban legend.
And to bring this back to Reagan - that was the senile old fart "specialized in the exaggerated, outrageous tale that was almost always unsubstantiated, usually false, yet so sensational that it merited repeated recounting… And because his ‘examples’ of welfare queens drew on existing stereotypes of welfare cheats and resonated with news stories about welfare fraud, they did indeed gain real traction." He sold missiles to Iran within 2 years of Iran's release of the hostages (was he fulfilling his part of a bargain). He supported terrorists in South America even after laws were passed to prevent it.
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Yes we can, yes we can.
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What? Who says I dont know what a socialist is? You? Thanks, but I can see for myself. Your puny mind has been brainwashed by the Great Messiah.
Then define socialist. You have been brain-washed by the drug-addled, sausage Rush and his constant worrying about "bend over and grab ankles"
Why do you always involve Bush into every conversation? Did I say anything about Bush? For all you know, I dislike Bush. Assuming someone aligns himself with a political party simply because he dislikes the other candidate is naive.
You were attempting to denigrate Obama about ruining the economy so I mentioned that Bush already did that. No one gives a rat's butt whether or not you like Bush (now - I am betting you were a strong supporter until it was no longer a popular position). I have no clue what you are talking about wrt 'naive'.
LOL. A doody-head, huh? Why, because you cant see the same parallels now as existed in Germany post-WW2? You are a fool.
No, I think you are a doody-head because you can not come up with anything original and need to echo right-wing talking points. If you are going to make such a comparison, you should at least have the intellectual honesty to try to back up your comparison.
Your optimistic thinking, and blind faith in someone makes you so. You probably know NOTHING about Obama aside from what the lefty media tells you. I suggest that you use that tiny brain of yours and actual do a bit of research.
Woohoo - I have a tiny brain and do not do research and am an optimist and yet, and yet you can not even support the least of your opinions.
Obama is ALREADY accelerating both government and our national debt at a rate far greater than Bush did during his 8 years.
Nope, not even close. Unemployment went from 4.2% when Bush started to 7.2% when he left, and jobs are still going away. Job growth under Bush was the worst in 70 years.
Obama and the Liberal's TARP plan failed miserably just like their stupid "stimulus" bill will. We do not NEED government intervention: fiscal policy has never worked, and never will.
The TARP was Bush's brainchild - it was his administration that came up with the brilliant idea to give the banks 750 billion dollars with no accounting.
Also, note how the two biggest portion of our debt is due to Liberal politics: Medicare and Social Security. Wow, what an intelligent idea!
Not even close to the truth - where the hell do you get your data. I want links; come on - support your statements!
When Ronald Reagan took office, the economy was in an arguably worse state than it is now. However, his strives to limit government, and leave the private sector alone helped us to recover, and enjoy the prosperities of the 90s. Obama plans to do the very opposite... Hmmm.... I wonder what will happen...
When Reagan took office, the national debt was 900 billion dollars; when Reagan left office 2800 Billion dollars. In "Reagan's Liberal Legacy" Joshua Green lays out the argument that "many of his actions as president wound up facilitating liberal objectives." Look: Reagan acceded to tax increases, oversaw a large increase in the size of the federal government, and made peace with the Soviet Union. All you conservative dreamers (is that an oxymoron or what!!) just can't grasp the realities of the world.
One year after his massive tax cut, Reagan agreed to a tax increase to reduce the deficit that restored fully one-third of the previous year's reduction.
Faced with looming deficits, Reagan raised taxes again in 1983 with a gasoline tax and once more in 1984, this time by $50 billion over three years, mainly through closing tax loopholes for business. Despite the fact that such increases were anathema to conservatives--and probably cost Reagan's successor, George H.W. Bush, reelection--Reagan raised taxes a grand total of four times just between 1982-84.
The number of Federal workers increased by 61,000 under Reagan (compare to 373,000 Federal jobs cut under Clinton)

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