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Also, note how the two biggest portion of our debt is due to Liberal politics: Medicare and Social Security. Wow, what an intelligent idea!
Not even close to the truth - where the hell do you get your data. I want links; come on - support your statements!
1945            Harry Truman sends a message to Congress asking for
                legislation establishing a national health insurance 
                plan.  Two decades of debate ensue, with opponents
                warning of the dangers of "socialized medicine."
...
July 30, 1965   Medicare and its companion program Medicaid,
                (which insures indigent recipients), are signed into 
                law by President Lyndon Johnson as part of his 
                "Great Society."

                Ex-president Truman is the first to enroll in Medicare.
http://seniorjournal.com/NEWS/2000%2...dCarHistry.htm
AFAIK, Truman and Johnson were not conservatives. Aren't Democrats known as liberals?

Franklin Delano Roosevelt (January 30, 1882 – April 12, 1945), often referred to by his initials FDR, was the 32nd President of the United States. He was a central figure of the 20th century during a time of worldwide economic crisis and world war. Elected to four terms in office, he served from 1933 to 1945 and is the only U.S. president to have served more than two terms.

During the Great Depression of the 1930s, Roosevelt created the New Deal to provide relief for the unemployed, recovery of the economy, and reform of the economic and banking systems, through various agencies, such as the Works Project Administration (WPA), National Recovery Administration (NRA), and the Agricultural Adjustment Administration (AAA).[1] Although recovery of the economy was incomplete until World War II, several programs he initiated, such as the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC), Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA), and the United States Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), continue to have instrumental roles in the nation's commerce. Some of his other legacies include the Social Security system and the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB).
And another Democrat -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_D._Roosevelt

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1945            Harry Truman sends a message to Congress asking for
                legislation establishing a national health insurance 
                plan.  Two decades of debate ensue, with opponents
                warning of the dangers of "socialized medicine."
...
July 30, 1965   Medicare and its companion program Medicaid,
                (which insures indigent recipients), are signed into 
                law by President Lyndon Johnson as part of his 
                "Great Society."

                Ex-president Truman is the first to enroll in Medicare.
http://seniorjournal.com/NEWS/2000%2...dCarHistry.htm
AFAIK, Truman and Johnson were not conservatives. Aren't Democrats known as liberals?

Franklin Delano Roosevelt (January 30, 1882 – April 12, 1945), often referred to by his initials FDR, was the 32nd President of the United States. He was a central figure of the 20th century during a time of worldwide economic crisis and world war. Elected to four terms in office, he served from 1933 to 1945 and is the only U.S. president to have served more than two terms.

During the Great Depression of the 1930s, Roosevelt created the New Deal to provide relief for the unemployed, recovery of the economy, and reform of the economic and banking systems, through various agencies, such as the Works Project Administration (WPA), National Recovery Administration (NRA), and the Agricultural Adjustment Administration (AAA).[1] Although recovery of the economy was incomplete until World War II, several programs he initiated, such as the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC), Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA), and the United States Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), continue to have instrumental roles in the nation's commerce. Some of his other legacies include the Social Security system and the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB).
And another Democrat -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_D._Roosevelt

OK, there you have links.
Thanks, but -um- I know who the liberals are; I am not questioning who the liberals are.

Let me spell it out for you - The United States owes the Social Security system over a trillion dollars. Does this help you?
Also, note how the two biggest portion of our debt is due to Liberal politics: Medicare and Social Security. Wow, what an intelligent idea!
So, let us look at the statement again. So, I step you through my thought process:
How can Medicare and Social Security be the 2 biggest portions of our debt when Social Security by itself has taken in over a trillion dollars that has been borrowed to make the budget look better. It is not a hole in the budget - it fills the holes in the budget.
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Let's vote GrimJack for U.S.Pres.
I wanted to vote for Superman, but sadly he died a couple years ago.
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I wanted to vote for Superman, but sadly he died a couple years ago.
Didn't he get beat to death by Batman?
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Can GrimJack save US?..

OKAY .. I'll go for Super old geek.. ahihihihi..

Ihate his victory statement.. "I'm asking you to believe.. not just in my ability to bring about real change in W .. I'm asking you to believe in yours.."

how 'bout you? old geek?.. what's your statement?..
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Whenever Obama does something, I think of what McCain with the help of Palin would have done.
No one died when Clinton lied.
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Whenever Obama does something, I think of what McCain with the help of Palin would have done.
If I understand your insinuation correctly: it doesn't matter how bad he does, still it would have been worse with a McCain/Palin administration.
What a pathetic and flawed reasoning that is!

Give credit and judgment to a person for what [s]he does, and not for what you think [s]he would do. The deeds and actions so far are there for everyone to see; no pretty words can camouflage the doing, no flattering promises can change his choices.

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We have been throwing pearls to the swines for eight years, look what we got!
No one died when Clinton lied.
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And Aia has been throwing swine before pearls for years now - if only he could read his own lips:
Give credit and judgment to a person for what [s]he does, and not for what you think [s]he would do.
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