Hmm, I would have to say that both partners are right. I love phpBB with a passion as well as vB. To me, both are easy to hackup and customize it as I have before. You can check out my forums at www.mdevonline.com and see for yourself. My forums isent just a phpBB. Its integrated into phpnuke but thats standard right? So get this, I made it more then just a phpBB, my News Mod for nuke itself is running from the phpBB forums and displaying jus like a regular news on teh front page. Neat hu? Yea, you can do the same and it is ratherly easier then vb I think, but again Its easy for me to do both. But if your getting into it and just kinda curious about it? Dani is correct.http://daniweb.com/techtalkforums/te...on_mrgreen.gif