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cdt1983 Nov 21st, 2004 2:09 am
AGP support video card question
 
Hi. I just ordered a video card from tigerdirect that has an interface speed of 8x, core clock of 275Mhz, memory clock of 500Mhz.
I am now concerned that my computer won't support it. I downloaded PC wizard 2004 and it tells me that my AGP slot is version 2.0, Transfert rate supported is 1x, 2x, 4x. And the current transfer rate is 264Mhz.

The card I ordered is an XFX GeForce MX 4000 / 128MB DDR / AGP 8X / VGA / TV Out / Video Card.

I really hope I am missing something here or PC wizard is referring to the 32MB nvidia card I currently have. My computer is not very old. Any info would be appreciated.
Is there any bios upgrade or anything that can be done to support this new card? Thanks again.

cdt1983 Nov 21st, 2004 2:58 am
Re: AGP support video card question
 
Correction: The Card I ordered is the XFX GeForce 5200 with a Core Clock speed of 250Mhz, and a Memory Clock speed of 400Mhz. The interface speed is also 8x.

caperjack Nov 21st, 2004 7:53 am
Re: AGP support video card question
 
unless the new card is backward compadiable its not likely it will work.
Quote:

MY Board is not that old
,What is old in the computer world !!:) 3 mnts is considered old I think for some technology .
You should have done some research before you order it ,a quick Google search of the cards name showes a lot of people with problems and Gamers not liking the card anyway !

Zachery Nov 21st, 2004 11:35 am
Re: AGP support video card question
 
You should be able to use it, most 8x cards are capable of 4x. However you will not get the full preformance out of the video card.

Thong_Ispector Nov 21st, 2004 12:22 pm
Re: AGP support video card question
 
AGP Confusion, Here is the best explanation I can offer
There are two AGP standards Version 1.0 and 2.0
Version 1.0 uses 3.3 volts and 2.0 uses 1.5 volts

There are multiple speeds 1x, 2x, 4x, 8x

AGP 2.0 is not the same as AGP 2x

AGP 1.0 calls for a notch in the buss in one location
AGP 2.0 calls for a notch in another

To further confuse the issue some AGP cards have both notches and are jumper selectable from 1.5 and 3.3 volts

All newer motherboards support the AGP 2.0 standard but if you are like me you may have one that supports AGP 1.0

If you put an AGP 1.0 i(3.3 volt) video card with universal notches into a motherboard that supports AGP 2.0 (1.5 volts) it will not damage anything it will just not boot up.

The AGP 2.0 ONLY card will not fit into an AGP 1.0 slot

The only time you can blow up a piece of hardware is if the video card has both 1.0 and 2.0 slots and is jumpered for AGP 2.0 (1.5 volts) then inserted into a motherboard that supports AGP 1.0 (3.3 volts)

The AGP 1.0 notch is in the 1/3 of the buss closest to the back of the case and the AGP 2.0 is in the 1/3 of the buss farthest from the back of the case.

Thong_Ispector Nov 21st, 2004 12:26 pm
Re: AGP support video card question
 
Continuing...
An 8x card in a 4x system will work but only at 4x...
If and when you upgrade the motherboard it will work at 8x.

cdt1983 Nov 21st, 2004 1:27 pm
Re: AGP support video card question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thong_Ispector
Continuing...
An 8x card in a 4x system will work but only at 4x...
If and when you upgrade the motherboard it will work at 8x.


ThongIspector, You were a great help. I just found out that the card WILL work in my system. I just wanted to tell caperjack that I DID do a lot of research before purchasing this card. Most Video card manufacturers just say that an available AGP slot is require, not specifying the version. I think this is very confusioning. Also, for the average user it is not easy to determine the version of thier AGP slot and what it supports, without DLing software like PC wizard 2004. Thanks again, Thong.

cdt1983 Nov 21st, 2004 1:29 pm
Re: AGP support video card question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by caperjack
unless the new card is backward compadiable its not likely it will work.
,What is old in the computer world !!:) 3 mnts is considered old I think for some technology .
You should have done some research before you order it ,a quick Google search of the cards name showes a lot of people with problems and Gamers not liking the card anyway !

Well, caperjack, I can't afford a more expensive card so I guess i am stuck with this piece of $hIt, huh? Thanks for nothing.

cdt1983 Nov 21st, 2004 1:30 pm
Re: AGP support video card question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachery
You should be able to use it, most 8x cards are capable of 4x. However you will not get the full preformance out of the video card.


Great, Thank-you Zachery, you were a great help.

cdt1983 Nov 21st, 2004 6:18 pm
Re: AGP support video card question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by caperjack
unless the new card is backward compadiable its not likely it will work.
,What is old in the computer world !!:) 3 mnts is considered old I think for some technology .
You should have done some research before you order it ,a quick Google search of the cards name showes a lot of people with problems and Gamers not liking the card anyway !


Yeah - caperjack you jumped the gun. Almost all AGP 8.0 cards support 4x speed. Also, from what I have read this card that I ordered has had very good reviews for its price. So I'm happy!


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