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nizzy1115 Apr 14th, 2005 10:32 pm
pcworld article question on networks
 
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/...,tk,mcx,00.asp

i just read this article and it says that you can log on to anothers computer with out knowing it thinking its a hotspot. My question is in wireless settings there are 2 types, access point and computer to computer. If i have only access point set would i be safe, or can a laptop setup to become an accesspoint? I connect to about 20 different access points everyday that i have no idea what they of or who owns them so im a bit conserned.
Thanks, Chris

DMR Apr 16th, 2005 6:58 am
Re: pcworld article question on networks
 
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Originally Posted by nizzy1115
i just read this article and it says that you can log on to anothers computer with out knowing it thinking its a hotspot. My question is in wireless settings there are 2 types, access point and computer to computer.,,,

Technically, the differentiation is between "infrastructure" mode and "ad hoc" mode; the former being a connection via a wireless router/access point/etc., and the later being a direct computer-to-computer connection. Google is your friend for more specifics on that one. :)


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Originally Posted by nizzy1115
If i have only access point set would i be safe

Nope, not if you have no other security protections in place. We've got a bit of a running (my fault) thread on wireless security issues here that might shed more light in that regard.

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Originally Posted by nizzy1115
I connect to about 20 different access points everyday that i have no idea what they of or who owns them so im a bit conserned.

You should be able to determine which are access points and which are stand-alone (ad-hoc) wireless computers via Windows' "View available wireless networks" option. In general though, I'd be concerned when connecting to any unknown network unless you're sure your own machine's security is up to snuff.

nizzy1115 Apr 16th, 2005 12:09 pm
Re: pcworld article question on networks
 
i take the train into the city everyday and when we stop i can usually find a linksys or blinkin router that has no encription on it so i connect during the minute or so stop to check mail and surf the net a little...nothing big and i do have windows xp pro with all security packs and zonealarm's security suit and its pretty locked down. in the wireless networks setting it will show 2 types of networks...one computer to computer (with a picture of 2 laptops linked together) and the other a wireless network (with a becon point picture). Is it possible for a laptop setting up a network to change the network type to an access point rather than a computer to computer network?

DMR Apr 16th, 2005 6:38 pm
Re: pcworld article question on networks
 
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Originally Posted by nizzy1115
Is it possible for a laptop setting up a network to change the network type to an access point rather than a computer to computer network?

To change the type? No, not in the way I think you mean.

A normal computer can be configured to be an access point, but once you form a network by joining client computer to that access point, you're really creating a new type of network, not changing the existing one. Bacically, you would be tearing down the old ad-hoc(IBSS) network and reconfiguring the computers to form a new infrastructure (BSS) network.


If I've misunderstood what you're asking, just let me know.

nizzy1115 Apr 16th, 2005 9:41 pm
Re: pcworld article question on networks
 
ok yeah i think that answers my question...i will just be careful not to do anything potentially risky on the internet while not at my home. Thanks for your help.

DMR Apr 16th, 2005 9:50 pm
Re: pcworld article question on networks
 
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Originally Posted by nizzy1115
ok yeah i think that answers my question...i will just be careful not to do anything potentially risky on the internet while not at my home. Thanks for your help.

You're welcome.

Yeah- when you jump on someone else's network you never know what might happen. Usually nothing will if you're only latching on to their network to grab a few minutes of Net access; they'll probably never even notice you. However, if their network has virus-infected machines on it, the viruses might notice you! :D

zeroth Apr 17th, 2005 1:20 am
Re: pcworld article question on networks
 
Wow, now we know one possible way that our nets can be breached on an example of the people doing it. I´m glad I´m not close to a train line...

meksikatsi Apr 24th, 2005 5:05 pm
Re: pcworld article question on networks
 
This is a favorite passtime of some to try and mess with people, watch out!


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