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SOFTHEME Aug 29th, 2006 10:43 am
Outsourcing to Ukraine
 
Hi all!

It would be interesting to know your ideas about a new and attractive location for software development outsourcing - Ukraine.

Any information on rates and level of expertise?

Thanks!

etechsupport Sep 18th, 2006 6:24 am
Re: Outsourcing to Ukraine
 
Check out the comments on this blog;
http://www.managementlogs.com/2006/0...tsourcing.html

AlarSoft Oct 7th, 2006 4:22 pm
Re: Outsourcing to Ukraine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SOFTHEME (Post 247574)
Hi all!

It would be interesting to know your ideas about a new and attractive location for software development outsourcing - Ukraine.

Any information on rates and level of expertise?

Thanks!

Outsourcing to Ukraine allows to minimize project costs and still to get the highest quality and excellent performance. Cost-effectiveness is achieved through competitively low prices for services of IT specialists in Ukraine.
Please contact us to get a free quote on your project!

bobchrist Feb 9th, 2007 11:07 am
Re: Outsourcing to Ukraine
 
" Eastern Europe outsourcing market will be next hot destination for European company and it will grow especially for local market supporting local European language". This is the prediction referred to this blog; etechsupport.wordpress.com/2007/01/09/etechsupports-outsourcing-prediction-for-2007/

marketingSS May 21st, 2007 7:44 am
Re: Outsourcing to Ukraine
 
There is also Belarus that is a rising outsourcing destination in Eastern Europe. ;)

Among others, this outsourcing destination benefits are:

1/ good educational background of IT specialists
2/ stable market. There are very few day-fly companies.
3/ presense of relatively big IT companies, which has infulence on the general quality of market players' activity
4/ governemental support, including creation of the High Technology Park

Also check the links below:
Outsourcing to Belarus gives Europe benefits only
Belarus Attempts to Become the Eastern European Bangalore

TkTkorrovi Aug 25th, 2007 11:30 am
Re: Outsourcing to Ukraine
 
Disgusting, i'm for all programmers to get paid for what their work is worth, not playing with them by taking job from programmers somewhere and giving it to programmers somewhere else. And concerning your government supported IT companies led by communists, i would advise not to have any deal with them, i would never work for such companies and i'm by far not the only one. Look, finally, even the programmers who develop the open source software, must get payment for the work, there is no other field in the world where so much work is done for free.

rybalkin Feb 29th, 2008 6:43 am
Re: Outsourcing to Ukraine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TkTkorrovi (Post 424668)
Disgusting, i'm for all programmers to get paid for what their work is worth, not playing with them by taking job from programmers somewhere and giving it to programmers somewhere else. And concerning your government supported IT companies led by communists, i would advise not to have any deal with them, i would never work for such companies and i'm by far not the only one. Look, finally, even the programmers who develop the open source software, must get payment for the work, there is no other field in the world where so much work is done for free.

this seems to be a real pain for you
as for what you called the countries led by communists... and not dealing with them...

i guess tolerance is not for you really, i do understand people inshore are losing their jobs but this is business - cost cutting. if you are a true professional you will not lose your place
Eastern Europe with Ukraine, Russia and Belarus will represent highly lucrative locations for IT outsourcing and software engineering soon. the opportunities these countries are offering are huge

also there is a pool of professionals and eastern european countries have always produced great scientists and tech profs

DimaYasny Feb 29th, 2008 6:57 am
Re: Outsourcing to Ukraine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TkTkorrovi (Post 424668)
Disgusting, i'm for all programmers to get paid for what their work is worth, not playing with them by taking job from programmers somewhere and giving it to programmers somewhere else.

Russian programming rates are actually not that low, compared to the cost of living. so the programmers aren't really breaking the market. the real market breakers are devs from Indian and Pakistan, who are willing to work very cheap, though in my experience aren't as well qualified as Russian/Belorussian/Ukrainian developers.


Quote:

And concerning your government supported IT companies led by communists,
have you been on EARTH for the last 17 years?

rybalkin Feb 29th, 2008 7:40 am
Re: Outsourcing to Ukraine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DimaYasny (Post 548721)
Russian programming rates are actually not that low, compared to the cost of living. so the programmers aren't really breaking the market. the real market breakers are devs from Indian and Pakistan, who are willing to work very cheap, though in my experience aren't as well qualified as Russian/Belorussian/Ukrainian developers.



have you been on EARTH for the last 17 years?

good point here! that chap seems to have been in the outer space for the last two decades

what company do you represent?

DimaYasny Feb 29th, 2008 8:32 am
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I represent myself only. And I haven't seen Russia since I was 10 - was growing up in Israel.


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