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gaurav252 Aug 20th, 2007 9:15 am
Plz Solve this problem...
 
Hi . i m new in c++ programming..plz help me in sorting out this problem.....
HOW THE VALUE OF "j" VARIES IN FOLLOWING PROBLEMS ? Plz Explain...

1. int i=10,j;
j= (i++) + (i++);
cout<<j;

2. int i=10,j;
j= (i++) + (++i);
cout<<j;

3. int i=10,j;
j= (++i) + (i++);
cout<<j;

4. int i=10,j;
j= (++i) + (++i);
cout<<j;

Ancient Dragon Aug 20th, 2007 9:34 am
Re: Plz Solve this problem...
 
I hate it when teachers teach undefined behavior. :angry: The value of j will depend on the compiler you are using because the language does not define the behavior of i.

gaurav252 Aug 20th, 2007 9:40 am
Re: Plz Solve this problem...
 
But turbo C..compiler shows the value oj j in ...
1. 20
2. 22
3. 22
4. 24
But i unable to understand why its showing these values...

hollystyles Aug 20th, 2007 10:21 am
Re: Plz Solve this problem...
 
It's the order that the sums and increments are executed. In each expresion you listed there are different addition operations to be done and depending on what order you do them effects the result. i++/++i is shorthand for i = i + 1; If you place the ++ before the i (prefix) this is generally accepted as increment i *before* evaluating the expression, putting ++ after the i (postfix) means evaluate the expression first and increment i *afterwards*. Also placing things in parentheses generally means evaluate this part of the expression first, but I imagine they are only in this example for clarity (there's only so many +'s the human eye can take!)

SpS Aug 20th, 2007 10:22 am
Re: Plz Solve this problem...
 
Read about Sequence Points

Hamrick Aug 20th, 2007 10:26 am
Re: Plz Solve this problem...
 
Quote:

But turbo C..compiler shows the value oj j in ...
It doesn't matter what the compiler does. The expression is undefined so the compiler is free to do anything, like give you 0 as the result regardless of j's value, or throw a system exception, or evaluate the expression in one of the ways it could be done. That's the problem. The expression could be evaluated in more than one way and they're all equally possible. So instead of just picking one, C++ says that the whole thing is undefined and you can't change a variable more than once between sequence points.

hollystyles Aug 20th, 2007 10:27 am
Re: Plz Solve this problem...
 
1. j= (i++) + (i++);

Compiles to machine instructions in this order:

j = 10 + 10
i = 10 + 1
i = 11 + 1

2. and 3.

i = 10 + 1
J = 11 + 11
I = 11 + 1

4.
i = 10 + 1
i = 11 + 1
j = 12 + 12

hollystyles Aug 20th, 2007 10:33 am
Re: Plz Solve this problem...
 
But like everyone else points out it's kind of nonsense, because 1. why would you ever need to do that anyway? Obfuscation? other than that I can't think of anything. and 2. it's contrary to the standard.

Ancient Dragon Aug 20th, 2007 1:36 pm
Re: Plz Solve this problem...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hollystyles (Post 422000)
But like everyone else points out it's kind of nonsense, because 1. why would you ever need to do that anyway? Obfuscation? other than that I can't think of anything. and 2. it's contrary to the standard.

and 3. he has an idot for a teacher.


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