actually, i got it, the problem was that the entire code looked like this:

<table cellpadding='0' cellspacing='0' border='1'><tr><td>#2:&nbsp;<td><input type='text' value='0' maxlength='7'...

that didnt change the placement

so i showed the borders of the table and its actually making the talbe bigger and putting space below the image that shouldnt be there, so it might be adding a...

so im really getting into the ajax crowd, though i dont strictly use ajax (no xml) i like the functionality of calling server side scripts for dynamic php functions...

anyway i have a few images...