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"Admin" is a common one along with "Password" and i have seen "noob" as a password

To make a good password, make it out of things that only you would know, and make it out of at least the main letters, numbers and some punctuation. But the best passwords are scattered with random characters.
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There are two requirements for a good password:

1. Nobody else would think of it

2. You can remember it

My biggest problem is that I have 12 accounts with different passwords. I keep forgetting which one goes with which account.

I think it would be better to have multiple short passwords, instead of a longer password. Of course, the software must not give clues by rejecting as soon as one password is bad. It should wait until the last one is entered.
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First choice: absolutely random and lots of digits. Something that even you can't figure out or remember.
Second choice: the best combination of "tricks" you can acquire/create/steal that works; accessable to you, but not accessable nor guessable to anyone or anything else.

combine:
Something you have.
Something you know.
Something you are.

"Are" requires biometrics of some form. If you can, USE IT.

"Know" is far more predictable than you think (d.o.b., anniversary, mother's maiden, etc.)

My advice, incorporate something you have. I juggle many systems/licenses, so I include the middle 5 digits of my XP reg. key as PART of my admin password for a box. You might use; the first 4 digits of an ATM/Credit card you ALWAYS carry, or the SN on a pocket knife/USB drive/lock key, that you ALWAYS carry.
AND NO POST-ITs on your MONITOR!!! Though a post-it with the the middle 5 digits of my XP reg. key (a minor PART of my password), is relatively safe.

Use your imagination. The people trying to steal it are.
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Something like W2L0C0M8E, see?
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Again, I come in after the discussion has started.

Addressing the original request:
Logic is the last thing you want to use to create a password. If it's logical, it ISN'T good.



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what is the best logic to make a good password?
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Logic is the last thing you want to use to create a password. If it's logical, it ISN'T good.
Or that logic should not strike to anyone else. A good pasword may be logical but unpredictable. (for anyone except the user)
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Chuck Norris.
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Chuck Norris.
Chuck Norris doesn't need to hack passwords... he just brute forces them with a roundhouse kick to the face!

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There are a couple tricks to use that could help:
color+noun+special char (replace one of the letters with a # like 6 for 'o' or 1 for 'i') and have a representation around your desk somewhere - you know all those ty collectables hanging off of geek computers were often password clues. I look over at my cork board now and I see:
a pink ribbon pin, silver skulls, a pic of me standing in the 'drive thru tree' when I visited the 'drive through the tree state park' <or whatever it's real name is> in California, a white snowflake and loads of old picture badges -- heck, there is my old passport from when I went to Australia and Fiji. If you have a cluttered life like me, you could have your password right out in the open and no one would see it.

When I was a system manager of VAX Cluster with forced p/w changes monthly, we kept a collection of those books of definitions that are not actual word but should be (I forget what they were called). There were 5 volumes in our library so when the password was changed, a message was sent to the team with a string like "4 15 2" which would translate as 4th volume 15th page, 2nd definition. That was back in the good old days when the 128 digit prime # would require 500,000 days to break (also the VAX/VMS system would stop accepting login attempts after 3 but not tell you that it stopped so you could hack all day and never get in)

Oh Gawd! does anyone out there even remember VAXes? How about Amigas?

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My boss (typical male) hits the q key six times and counts it out loud. That might be just stupid enough to be good.

Let's hope he never gets to this forum.
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