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Re: Installing ide hard drive with sata hard drive

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Originally Posted by CBeatZ825

Hi, I was wondering...did you ever fix the problem that was causing your system to slow down? I just recently setup my hd the same as yours so I would like to have as much information from this as possible :cheesy:

Sorry, I have not fixed my problem with the slow boot speed. It really doesn't bother me that much it just sits at the mobo splash screen a little longer then I think it should. Other then that minor problem everything else works fine. Of course I haven't really looked into it. But since you mentioned it I just might.

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Re: Installing ide hard drive with sata hard drive

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Originally Posted by joeblow79stl

Sorry, I have not fixed my problem with the slow boot speed. It really doesn't bother me that much it just sits at the mobo splash screen a little longer then I think it should. Other then that minor problem everything else works fine. Of course I haven't really looked into it. But since you mentioned it I just might.

I am certain I have your answer, remove the pins on your ide drive, this should work, it did for me. No pins required for stand alone ide drives for most manufacterers. The master pin setting slowed my boot time down to a halt on my Asus a8n-sli board. I have a sata also attached. Make sure you have an 80 pin ribbon on the drive also. Hope this helps.

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Re: Installing ide hard drive with sata hard drive

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Sep 10th, 2005

Hey ppl,
Ive got a problem with sata and ide: I've got a soyo dragon plus 2 mobo, which supports both sata and ide. I've just installed a seagate barracuda 250gb (partitioned) HD as the primary master, and i've managed to get xp on it no problem. However, now my system doesn't detect my old IDE drives at all, not in the bios or windows. I've selected the setting in bios (AWARD) that sets "Pri SATA+Sec IDE" - which I'm assuming will allow both drives to be seen. But no luck! I've discovered that if i set it to "IDE Only" - I can get it to detect the IDE, but thenno SATA! So in general, I can get either drive to work, but not both at the same time!
please help!
thanx in advance...

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Re: Installing ide hard drive with sata hard drive

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Originally Posted by joeblow79stl

Well I figured out my own problem!
I had to go into the BIOS and set the boot order causee when I put the EIDE HD in, it automatically changed the boot order. Their was also a section under the boot config in the BIOS where I could place the HD's in some proirity, like 1st, 2nd or 3rd. I also had to change this. The OS now loads from the SATA HD and the EIDE HD was assigned a new drive letter on it's own and everything is functional.
However, and this is a big however...... The PC takes about 5 times longer to reboot and stays at the ASUS splash screen about a minute longer than when it did before when I just had the SATA HD plugged in.
This is really disturbing, if anyone can help that would be great.

Hi, I too have an Asus A8N SLI Premium, and have been fighting this machine the past couple of days trying to figure out how to get this to work. I tried exactly what you did all to no avail. The only difference is even though it is a standalone PATA IDE I have to set the jumpers to master otherwise I will lose my DVD drive if I go jumperless. I tried setting the boot settings, tried to get it so my SATA drive with windows on it will work, all to no avail. In fact, if I go jumperless on the IDE I get a message telling me the drive is failing and then if I hit F1 to advance I get a DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER message.

I have tried everything and am out of ideas and patience. So, if anyone has any ideas I would be more than happy to hear them.

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Re: Installing ide hard drive with sata hard drive

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Feb 17th, 2006

I was having the same problem so I finally broke down and spent $15 on a IDE to SATA converter (my new slave drive was IDE, and master drive was SATA) once you hook up the converter, set the jumper on the IDE drive to master and connect it to your next available SATA port on the motherboard. You shouldn't have any problems using the converted drive as a slave. By the way SATA drives dont have any jumpers and are all considered "master" drives. Which is why I said to set the jumper on the converted drive to master. You can use your BIOS to adjust the boot device priority in order to select which drive you want to run your OS from.

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Re: Installing ide hard drive with sata hard drive

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Mar 26th, 2006

As I have read from previous posts, the sata hard drive has no jumpers and so, the sata hard drive is considered as the master....is there no way to change the sata hard drive to be the slave?

My current ide master drive is getting full plus the os on it is a little screwy, so i need to reformat it and might as well get a new drive for more space along the way...but everyone here seems to want to set their sata hard drive to be the master and ide to be the slave...i'm trying to do the opposite...is that possible?

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Re: Installing ide hard drive with sata hard drive

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Mar 27th, 2006

Just plug in the new sata drive, and double check the bios settings to make sure that the boot order checks your old hard drive for the master boot record and that it is not checking the new sata drive. It sould work like a charm

And yes, there is no way to change a sata drive master/slave.

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Re: Installing ide hard drive with sata hard drive

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Apr 15th, 2006

This post helped me greatly. I read about the problems with MSI boards, drivers, jumpers, BIOS, etc. Well I have a MSI board and I could not get my new SATA drive set to C: and my old IDE to D: and all the things folks have posted were happening to me. One reply stated do not set IDE to master or slave just remove the jumpers. Well that didn't sound right to me but thought I'd give it a try. Fired up the computer and it asked me which of 3 copies of xp do I want to boot from???? I did nothing and it booted. SATA is C: CD is D: and the old IDE is E: and everything works. No issues in device manager. As I only have one copy of XP installed I assume there is a left over file on D that upon boot makes the computer think there is more than one copy installed. Nothing I can't live with now that I finally got both HD's working. But if anyone knows a simple fix please let me know. Anyway thanks evryone for posting on this issue.

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Re: Installing ide hard drive with sata hard drive

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May 10th, 2006

I've just install a SATA drive & transferred XP etc across from my old drive, which is set to master on the IDE connector.

When I boot the PC all is recognised & the PC boots & operates correctly.

However it does seem to take longer to boot, but the main problem is when I select the IDE Drive (D) in Explorer or whatever, it takes a full minute or two to read its contents before operating correctly.

Hardly life threatening, but bloody annoying.

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Re: Installing ide hard drive with sata hard drive

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Aug 12th, 2006

Just by reading all posts here I came to one conclusion by logic.

IF you want your SATA drive to boot correctly with an IDE drive, the IDE drive needs to have the OS as it is labeled master or slave as opposed to SATA.

SO just remove your SATA Drive... Install your OS on your IDE drive, go in the BIOS and make it so it boots off this HD (Make sure it's on Primary Master with the jumpers). Once that is done, plug in your SATA drive (When the IDE is on master, has on OS and is set to boot from it) Then you should have all your stuff on your SATA drive still and it should boot from the IDE drive.

IF you're having problems with a conflict of the two OS's you'll need to clear the MBR of the SATA drive (if possible).

Anyway. It's something to try. Thanks for reading.