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| YES |    | 13 | 33.33% |
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| There is no life on other planets |    | 5 | 12.82% |
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Obviously not comprehensive (cause of unheard-coverups), but here's a longish list (I like lists):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UFO_sightings
You're one's mentioned at the end, Josh:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UFO_sightings
You're one's mentioned at the end, Josh:
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Dozens of residents of Stephenville claim to have seen a "large silent object with bright lights flying low and fast." Several also reported having observed fighter jets chasing it.
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Originally Posted by GrimJack 
There is actually nothing very interesting in CotG; every significant factoid mentioned in the book that was not an outright lie has been debunked - thanks for pointing to the wiki, rather than, say - pointing to one of these sites.
Yes, I know, but its interesting reading anyway. I don't really believe what I seen in Start Trek either, but I like to watch it.
I visited that link you posted -- wow what a bunch of nasty stuff.
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Originally Posted by vegaseat
If you talk about visitors from outer space, I would say 'no', since distances are simply too far. It would take thousands of years of travel in even the best case.
If you talk about loonies, dopers and drunkards seeing something strange, then I would say 'of course!'
The distances are too far for who?
That is true for us certainly, at this point in our developement. But it is not beyond the realm of possiblility that some other civilization could have developed methods that bypass our limited technological means.
It is also conceivable that individuals within some race could live millions or billions of years, so that travel from there to here would be no more impressive than, say, walking around the world would be for one of us.
Finally, we could appear to be so insignificant to them that they simply take a look and move on. We might be no more to them than, say, a bit of mold on an orange peel generally is to us.
Anyone who disbelieves in the possibility of life elsewhere either wants it to be that way or has never thought of the possibilities at length.
In an infinite universe, there is infinite possibility. It seems rediculous to judge what might be happening "out there" simply in terms of our personal limitations.
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I don't believe if UFO is present. i think UFO is superstition....
Never tried = Never Know
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Originally Posted by Jx_Man
I don't believe if UFO is present. i think UFO is superstition....
And why is that?
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Originally Posted by briansmall
The distances are too far for who?
That is true for us certainly, at this point in our developement. But it is not beyond the realm of possiblility that some other civilization could have developed methods that bypass our limited technological means.
Light limit. While it doesn't completely preclude the possibility of making the journey, the fact that a ship of any kind cannot travel faster than the vacuum speed of light (due to the laws of physics if I recall correctly) means that a trip would take a vast length of time. The nearest extrasolar star, after all (technically that should be stars, as there are three of them) sit somewhat over four light-years away, meaning a journey from them would take at least that long. And I'm fairly sure they don't have planets; the trip from a planetary system would be, by definition, longer.
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Originally Posted by briansmall
It is also conceivable that individuals within some race could live millions or billions of years, so that travel from there to here would be no more impressive than, say, walking around the world would be for one of us.
I'd think someone actually walking around the world would be pretty impressive, actually...or did you simply mean 'travelling' around it?
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Originally Posted by briansmall
Finally, we could appear to be so insignificant to them that they simply take a look and move on. We might be no more to them than, say, a bit of mold on an orange peel generally is to us.
They've taken years to get here, and they'll just take one look and say 'skip it'? Not even take the time to stretch whatever leg-equivalents they have out?
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Originally Posted by briansmall
Anyone who disbelieves in the possibility of life elsewhere either wants it to be that way or has never thought of the possibilities at length.
I believe it could exist, I simply find it unlikely that the human race will ever find out. Which side of the options you just gave does that fall on?
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Originally Posted by briansmall
In an infinite universe, there is infinite possibility. It seems rediculous to judge what might be happening "out there" simply in terms of our personal limitations.
Are you presuming a steady-state universe? If we go with the big bang theory, then by definition it can't be infinite because it's been spreading for a finite amount of time since it began, and it is presumed to have begun at a single point, which would give spatial limitations to the area within.
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Originally Posted by EnderX
Light limit. While it doesn't completely preclude the possibility of making the journey, the fact that a ship of any kind cannot travel faster than the vacuum speed of light (due to the laws of physics if I recall correctly) means that a trip would take a vast length of time. The nearest extrasolar star, after all (technically that should be stars, as there are three of them) sit somewhat over four light-years away, meaning a journey from them would take at least that long. And I'm fairly sure they don't have planets; the trip from a planetary system would be, by definition, longer.
I'd think someone actually walking around the world would be pretty impressive, actually...or did you simply mean 'travelling' around it?
They've taken years to get here, and they'll just take one look and say 'skip it'? Not even take the time to stretch whatever leg-equivalents they have out?
I believe it could exist, I simply find it unlikely that the human race will ever find out. Which side of the options you just gave does that fall on?
Are you presuming a steady-state universe? If we go with the big bang theory, then by definition it can't be infinite because it's been spreading for a finite amount of time since it began, and it is presumed to have begun at a single point, which would give spatial limitations to the area within.
I'm aware of the limitations of our notion of the universe. I happen to not believe that "what we see (and know how to do) is all there is."
But even assuming that light speed is an ultimate limit, so what? Time is meaningful only in terms of how much or how little we have.
Using the Big Bang theory to dismiss the infinite is a stretch. However you wish to view the universe, the notion of infinite is close enough to what is there for purposes of this discussion.
Yes, I meant walking around the world. Walking around the world is not much of a stretch at all. Granted, one cannot walk on water, but 20,000 miles is not much. Given a path upon which to do so, a healthy person could do it in a year and a half, walking 10 hours a day (assuming they had support along the way).
They could skip over us for any number of reasons. I won't try to guess at that. This might be their equivalent of a desert. We might be deemed too nasty to thier lives, like a virus. Their existance and ours might be so far apart that they'd be at a loss as to how to communicate. Perhaps they are only partially "in" our dimensions and could not interact with us if they wanted to. Use your imagination.
Where do I stand? Only in the realm of possibility, not in expectation. That said, I do not expect we will or will not find out.
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>>the fact that a ship of any kind cannot travel faster than the vacuum speed of light (due to the laws of physics
We don't know if that hold true throughout the universe. Who says we can not travel at worp speed like they do in Star Trek?
>>Yes, I meant walking around the world. Walking around the world is not much of a stretch at all
Dave Kunst has already done that; riding on ships/boats only to cross large bodies of water.
We don't know if that hold true throughout the universe. Who says we can not travel at worp speed like they do in Star Trek?
>>Yes, I meant walking around the world. Walking around the world is not much of a stretch at all
Dave Kunst has already done that; riding on ships/boats only to cross large bodies of water.
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Originally Posted by Ancient Dragon
>>the fact that a ship of any kind cannot travel faster than the vacuum speed of light (due to the laws of physics
We don't know if that hold true throughout the universe. Who says we can not travel at worp speed like they do in Star Trek?
I love that documentary. It never ceases to amaze me though how little deviation there isis in the size of the aliens they encounter, and that they mostly speak english.
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Originally Posted by Ancient Dragon
>>the fact that a ship of any kind cannot travel faster than the vacuum speed of light (due to the laws of physics
We don't know if that hold true throughout the universe. Who says we can not travel at worp speed like they do in Star Trek?
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If other life forms could live extreme long lifes and travel at any speed, we would have had visitors already. Look out the window, are you seeing any?
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