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Well, warp speed is simply an imagination of Hollywood to make the whole Star Trek series possible. Imagine you would even hit a speck of stellar dust at such speeds! Earlier, some imaginator invented Superman, Peter Pan and other flying objects (don't try it yourself). You are right AD, all very entertaining and good for your own imagination!

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If other life forms could live extreme long lifes and travel at any speed, we would have had visitors already. Look out the window, are you seeing any?


And I though Star Trek was a documentary. I'm crushed.

Am I seeing any visitors? Maybe so, maybe not. Do you know that I am not seeing them? I'll answer for you, no, you do not.

[Did you see that "comedy" (heh heh, that's what they called it, but it was a documentary, actually), Men In Black?] The point would be that you wouldn't necessarily know if you were seeing them.]

I have no problem with anyone only believing what they see, what I don't understand is that so many people choose not to look for possibilities beyond what they see.
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Nothing wrong with a healthy imagination! You need it to be creative. Men in Black is a very funny movie.

However, when you imagine to see living/moving things others can't see, and you are sober and call them real, then you are a troubled mind at best.
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Nothing wrong with a healthy imagination! You need it to be creative. Men in Black is a very funny movie.

However, when you imagine to see living/moving things others can't see, and you are sober and call them real, then you are a troubled mind at best.


That brings to mind a song ...

A worried man with a worried mind
No one in front of me and nothing behind
There's a woman on my lap and she's ..
Drinking champagne ...

Ah but I digress. I could not agree with you more. Or less. Whichever. Anyway, well said.

I don't assume there is no such thing just because it has not yet been seen by me. I have no expectations, just observations and thought.
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Re: Ufo

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However, when you imagine to see living/moving things others can't see, and you are sober and call them real, then you are a troubled mind at best.

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Actually, there's nothing in Newtonian or Einsteinian physics that prevents one from travelling faster than light.
The only thing that's prohibited is travelling at exactly the speed of light itself.
So if one were to find a way to accellerate from subluminal velocities to superluminal velocities (and of course decellerate again to subluminal velocities) without ever travelling at the speed of light itself one would be able to reach just about any speed one wants to.
In fact, accelleration at superluminal speeds may well cost no energy at all, while decelleration gets more expensive the nearer to the speed of light one comes while slowing down.
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Actually, there's nothing in Newtonian or Einsteinian physics that prevents one from travelling faster than light.
The only thing that's prohibited is travelling at exactly the speed of light itself.
So if one were to find a way to accellerate from subluminal velocities to superluminal velocities (and of course decellerate again to subluminal velocities) without ever travelling at the speed of light itself one would be able to reach just about any speed one wants to.
In fact, accelleration at superluminal speeds may well cost no energy at all, while decelleration gets more expensive the nearer to the speed of light one comes while slowing down.


How would you manage to skip that particular speed while undergoing accel/decel? If you can't move past it without hitting it, then there's no way for an object to undergo the shift between sub- and superluminal speeds. I fail to see how anything on one side would even be able to interact with something on the other.

Perhaps that's where the supposed missing 90% of the universe is hiding...beyond the light limit.
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Well what if it isn't about speed at all, but rather about placement?
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Coincidentally, there was a recent "UFO sighting" in Texas. Stevensville, I believe is the city name. It has recently received national attention.. apparently many people saw some 'unidentified' object.. The initial two responses from the government were that they had no idea what the object could have been. However, the government recently made a new statement saying that there were actually F-16s in the area. This, of course, has created no government conspiracy theories..

Another bunch of pranksters with fire balloons.
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Actually, there's nothing in Newtonian or Einsteinian physics that prevents one from travelling faster than light.

Actually, the speed of light IS the speed limit of everything - and (through study of Einsteins and Lorentz' work), I have discovered that there is only one speed in the entire universe - the speed of light. We don't notice it, because it is the speed we move through time.

ALL motion obeys this equation exactly (Use Excel formula notation for expressions) as observed by one observer:

w = SQRT(c^2 - v^2)

Where:

c is the speed of light
v is the velocity of the observed object, relative to the observer
w is the speed through the observer's time dimension

w/c is the time dilation factor.

A v faster than c causes the square root to not exist.
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could u tell me some matter on interpersonal skills
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