Something I have noticed with my uni course is that there are so few women on it. Is there some reason why women stay away from the best part of using a computer IE programming in java?

am I a bit strange in getting excited when I finally finish a project which I have just not understood before and then suddenly it drops like the whole using of IndexOf, Substring() etc? One of my lecturers says functional programming is better than OO programming and java is the worst OO language and says computists should be proud to be geeks. Now I certainly disagree with my lecture on his views of functional programming and his views on Java.

are any of you proud to be geeks? :-p

Also how many women are on this forum?

I'm a woman studying Computer Science. There are more and more of us doing Computing courses
I am now learning both, Java and Haskell, and I enjoy them both. Although must admit that I find Haskell easier at the moment. I spend ages trying to find out why my Java programs don't want to cooperate, while learning Haskell takes me 2 hours a week and my programs work fine. But I really want to learn Java and I will eventually

cool. Its nice to know. The 1 fear I have is I end up like my lecturers male single and dating alcohol. So what I am trying to learn to do is not talk about computing to non computist cus I have found that while some of the stuff I do I think is really interesting it is completely boring to everyone else. Knowing there are some women programmers out there gives me hope that I could meet one and have someone I could be married to who shared my quirky computing interests.
I havnt heard of haskell before.

are you doing any mark up languages?

Or you could join social events that your union put on? Or take up a sport. The main reason people end up alone is becuase they don't socialise! So get out and live it a little. Myself are giving American Football a try whilst I'm also an active member of the Christian Union on our campus. Soon to be the president of it... WooT

There is a better way to socialize:
3 words for you
World Of Warcraft

I'm a boy who writing this post , anyway this is my open ideas about female java programmers ,

Both men and women are human beings , Technology is for human , no matter you are boy
or a girl the technology is for you and the programmer is a one who are using his knowledge to make the software . Software is a thing that makes human lives more confortable and easy . So programmer is one who doing this .

Something I have noticed with my uni course is that there are so few women on it.
The main problem is that we ( as males) does not likes to give the chances for the girls . But
one thing about this is only the elder generation only have these type of ideas . Honstely AS A BOY I HAVEN'T THIS . and I hope 90% of the boys in my age have the same idea , not the OLD DRUNKED PROFESSORS IDEA .

The 1 fear I have is I end up like my lecturers male single and dating alcohol.
Yes the leacture is using the alchol , you better keep him a distance . The people who are
said that we have a PHD degree , and someone who old and so called him as a experience than us (thus beacuse he is only old ) , have these kinds of ideas . They did not really help
to the femal students , why they don't like to see femail as expertises . why the problem is that they are cannot be so called eperienced if women are there . and they are physically head dammaged know ! (PHD , Physically head damage , don't do it ) .

If womens are reading this thread , just listen , our younger generation does not like these kinds of ideas . POW ! the JOHN still takes cigrates ! but we didn't .

anyway the functional programming can be sometime good in some places , for a example think that you have to design a safety critical system like a system to a space shuttle then its better that you implement it with a functional programming method . You can use formal methods for that .

No problem you are a male of a femail , computing world is for you !
please argue my ideas

its a pathetic openion, probably he doesn't know the beauty of OO programmin,
java is one of the sweetest language on the earth. tell him to learn something about java.

There are generally few women in IT and most of those are doing work as analysts, trainers, and tech support people.

It's got nothing to do with Java, just the fact that women seem drawn more towards the people side of the business rather than communing with computers.

>Something I have noticed with my uni course is that there are so few women on it.
That's typical.

>Is there some reason why women stay away from the
>best part of using a computer IE programming in java?
Maybe they don't know that the best part of using a computer is programming in Java. It's certainly news to me. Personally, I don't like the language. I don't like the Java-centric attitude of typical Java programmers, and I despise every piece of Java software I've been forced to use.

In my group of 160 people there are 6 girls. However, I hate Java and will never be able to get anything working in it, while they, as far as I know, are quite good in programming in Java.

Wasn't the first programmer a lady BTW?