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i am a novice in hardware aspect, due to my study i need to master this part. my question is what is internal RAM and exteral RAM, where is located in motherboad?

seconde one is what is off-chip and on-chip? where is located in motherboad?

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Are you talking about the Microcontrollers?

As far as I know there is just RAM on the motherboard of a computer. Internal and external RAM can be found when you are talking about microcontrollers.

on-chip refers to any memory (Code, RAM, or other) that physically exists on the microcontroller itself

External RAM is RAM memory that resides off-chip. This is often in the form of standard static RAM or flash RAM.
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Are you talking about the Microcontrollers?

As far as I know there is just RAM on the motherboard of a computer. Internal and external RAM can be found when you are talking about microcontrollers.

on-chip refers to any memory (Code, RAM, or other) that physically exists on the microcontroller itself

External RAM is RAM memory that resides off-chip. This is often in the form of standard static RAM or flash RAM.
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the on-chip memory actually is located inside CPU, off-chip is located outside CPU, but it is not DRAM, off-chip and on-chip are all SRAM, so for external RAM, i am not sure it is off-chip memory or DRAM. thanks.
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thanks friend

the on-chip memory actually is located inside CPU, off-chip is located outside CPU, but it is not DRAM, off-chip and on-chip are all SRAM, so for external RAM, i am not sure it is off-chip memory or DRAM. thanks.
another question is where is smart buffer,and how to work?thanks
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thanks friend

the on-chip memory actually is located inside CPU, off-chip is located outside CPU, but it is not DRAM, off-chip and on-chip are all SRAM, so for external RAM, i am not sure it is off-chip memory or DRAM. thanks.

when it comes to CPUs you have L1, L2, and L3 cache. Cache is just another name for memory. L1, L2 and L3 cache are static RAM(SRAM) this is not the same as DRAM. When the CPU looks for data to process it will look in L1, L2, and L3 before it will go to DRAM. L1 will be on the CPU (on-chip) L2 may be inside the CPU package but not directly on the CPU chip, and L3 will be on the motherboard somewhere (off-chip).

now since we are talking about CPUs I would think that internal RAM refers to the L1, and L2 cache and external RAM would refer to the L3 cache. Remember L1, L2, and L3 are not the same as DRAM.
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L3 cashe is ON chip for all modern processors (AMD Phenom http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_15331_15332^15334,00.html). the last time L3 cashe was off chip was the AMD K6.
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