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google PR with and without www

Oct 24th, 2004

hi,just today only i noticed this,after the PR update recently all the 20 pages of our website got PR4,earlier only our homepage www.mydomain.com/index.htm was having PR 4
but after this update all have got 4
any way my question is this ,i found a big problem for our website
i found that when i enter www.mydomain.com it shows PR4 and when just mydomain.com/ it gives PR3.
Whats this
i thinks google cosiders these as different urls and indexing to give diff PR
i wanted to know how much PR you think we are loosin due to this considering the fact if the google had considered both URLs same
main thing is that how can i find those links on the web which are back links to both these urls and correct the problem so that we may gain some PR as sice 3 months we have just 4 and we want to improve it

Your suggestions and comments are anticipated

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Re: google PR with and without www

Oct 30th, 2004

What method are you using to determine page rank?
I've noticed a higher page rank from incoming links depending on how the links are structured.. www is actually a sub domain of mydomain.com (example links only). If the incoming links are written www then the PR will be higher when you use www. If they use simply mydomain.com to link to you the PR sould be higher without the www.

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Re: google PR with and without www

Nov 23rd, 2004

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Originally Posted by benevolent001

hi,just today only i noticed this,after the PR update recently all the 20 pages of our website got PR4,earlier only our homepage www.mydomain.com/index.htm was having PR 4
but after this update all have got 4
any way my question is this ,i found a big problem for our website
i found that when i enter www.mydomain.com it shows PR4 and when just mydomain.com/ it gives PR3.
Whats this
i thinks google cosiders these as different urls and indexing to give diff PR
i wanted to know how much PR you think we are loosin due to this considering the fact if the google had considered both URLs same
main thing is that how can i find those links on the web which are back links to both these urls and correct the problem so that we may gain some PR as sice 3 months we have just 4 and we want to improve it

Your suggestions and comments are anticipated

I recommend consolidating all links to one or the other. For my sites, I always use the "www." in front of the domain name. Then I make sure that most of the links on the site are absolute references containing the "www." prefix.

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Re: google PR with and without www

Nov 27th, 2004

Same here. I always use the www and encourage anyone who links to DaniWeb to do the same.

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Re: google PR with and without www

Nov 29th, 2004

301 non www traffic to the www side of things, better SEO longterm.
Why? You combine your page rank from two sites (domain.com and www.domain.com) into one, ultimatly will pass on more PR to your sub-pages, hence, better SEO.

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Re: google PR with and without www

Aug 1st, 2006

I think this may help you out: http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/seo-ad...onicalization/

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Re: google PR with and without www

Aug 3rd, 2006

I too always use the www... it was one of the first things I read about SEO

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Re: google PR with and without www

Aug 4th, 2006

Google sees your website with the 'www' (http://www.example.com) as a different page the without (http://example.com). Pages that link to the page without the 'www' are hurting your pages with the 'www' as the PR is essentially being split between the two pages. Fortunately this is easy to fix. Use a 301 redirect to redirect Google, and everyone else, to the 'www' page from the non 'www' page. The code would look similar to this (mod_rewrite required):

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Options +FollowSymlinks 
RewriteEngine On 
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^(www\.|$) [NC] 
RewriteRule ^ http://www.%{HTTP_HOST}%{REQUEST_URI} [L,R=301]

To go from the 'www' to non 'www' use this code:

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Options +FollowSymlinks 
RewriteEngine On 
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST}//s%{HTTPS} ^www\.(.*)//((s)on|s.*)$ [NC] 
RewriteRule ^ http%3://%1%{REQUEST_URI} [L,R=301]

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Re: google PR with and without www

Oct 4th, 2006

Hi guys im new here great site by the way , been reading alot of the posts around and have noticed alot of people talking about their sites going up and down in the PR's , this is because there are many bot's for google and on seperate servers, you can test your site in the link below, if you have the same pr all the way down then you've got a strong PR , if not then it will jump from PR to PR

Hope this helps some people...

http://www.seologs.com/pr-check/pagerank-dc.html

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Re: google PR with and without www

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Oct 9th, 2006

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Originally Posted by benevolent001

hi,just today only i noticed this,after the PR update recently all the 20 pages of our website got PR4,earlier only our homepage www.mydomain.com/index.htm was having PR 4
but after this update all have got 4
any way my question is this ,i found a big problem for our website
i found that when i enter www.mydomain.com it shows PR4 and when just mydomain.com/ it gives PR3.
Whats this
i thinks google cosiders these as different urls and indexing to give diff PR
i wanted to know how much PR you think we are loosin due to this considering the fact if the google had considered both URLs same
main thing is that how can i find those links on the web which are back links to both these urls and correct the problem so that we may gain some PR as sice 3 months we have just 4 and we want to improve it

Your suggestions and comments are anticipated

Dear Friend,

The problem arose with you is called cononicalisation problem.
Whenver google crawlers found more than one instance for a domain name, they give a sort of panelty to the website.

The solution of the above problem is to setup 301 Permanent redirect for the different instances of the domain i.e. abc.com, www.abc.com/, www.abc.com/index.htm to a particular domain name like >> www.abc.com .

It will never ask you to lose your page rank and always remember to hyperlink the main domain only whenever putting links rather than using other instances.

Hope this will help you out.

Cheers,
SEO2K6