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Hi, I just started research and playing around with Java a week ago. My uncle's company gave me all the necessary software and everything, and now I am trying to learn as much as I can in the fastest possible time. Browsing through the first page, I realized that I wanted to learn everything, programming, hacking, developing games, etc.
So far, I just started to read up on the java.sun.com guides and other various web tutorials. I was just wondering, about those guides on the stickied thread, is there any order I should read them in? Are there levels of difficulty that I should be aware of and learn certain things in a specific order?
Thanks
So far, I just started to read up on the java.sun.com guides and other various web tutorials. I was just wondering, about those guides on the stickied thread, is there any order I should read them in? Are there levels of difficulty that I should be aware of and learn certain things in a specific order?
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Originally Posted by bloody_ninja 
Hi, I just started research and playing around with Java a week ago. My uncle's company gave me all the necessary software and everything, and now I am trying to learn as much as I can in the fastest possible time. Browsing through the first page, I realized that I wanted to learn everything, programming, hacking, developing games, etc.
So far, I just started to read up on the java.sun.com guides and other various web tutorials. I was just wondering, about those guides on the stickied thread, is there any order I should read them in? Are there levels of difficulty that I should be aware of and learn certain things in a specific order?
Thanks
Ok question--
What do you already know about Software Development / OOP ? Are you familiar with another language?
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Ok, I just picked up Java, and am not familar with any other language.
My knowledge of programming in general is very scarce and I went straight to Java. Some guides I read told me to learn C first, although others said Java was an easy language and I could just go straight to that. (Which is what I did)
Now, I have been reading the tutorial on Java Sun, and I find like I am not fully understanding the function of everything. I know what it does and the format of it, but I still unsure with how to use it.
A similar analogy would be in calculus. It is like I know what a derivative is, but I don't know how to find it, solve for it, or use it.
My knowledge of programming in general is very scarce and I went straight to Java. Some guides I read told me to learn C first, although others said Java was an easy language and I could just go straight to that. (Which is what I did)
Now, I have been reading the tutorial on Java Sun, and I find like I am not fully understanding the function of everything. I know what it does and the format of it, but I still unsure with how to use it.
A similar analogy would be in calculus. It is like I know what a derivative is, but I don't know how to find it, solve for it, or use it.
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Originally Posted by bloody_ninja
Ok, I just picked up Java, and am not familar with any other language.
My knowledge of programming in general is very scarce and I went straight to Java. Some guides I read told me to learn C first, although others said Java was an easy language and I could just go straight to that. (Which is what I did)
Now, I have been reading the tutorial on Java Sun, and I find like I am not fully understanding the function of everything. I know what it does and the format of it, but I still unsure with how to use it.
A similar analogy would be in calculus. It is like I know what a derivative is, but I don't know how to find it, solve for it, or use it.
Whoever told you to learn C first is a putz.
Java is far easier to learn (biased opinion from one who is still learning Java, some C++ and a bit of C#)
What you want to do is just make some practice programs. Not just a few, but tons and try to convince yourself of what is happening.
Afterwards, read up on what you do by googling around for Java tutorials or viewing the ones posted here.
Basically practice with reading through the tutorials, experimenting, coming up with your own conclusions then doing research on the right answer and compare it with your conclusions.
Eventually you'll get to the point where you will learn new ideas easily because your thinking alignment will be more in sync with what you need to do.
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Ok thanks man. Oh yeah, another problem I am also encountering with the Java Sun tutorials is the fact that it is all for 1.4.
Apparently, I am using Java Eclipse SDK and within it says
-JRE System Library [jdk 1.5]-
Unfortunately, some of these programs and facts from the Java website don't apply to this version. I was wondering if there is some sort of online tutorial that is more geared towards 1.5 .
EDIT: Even basic stuff like this happened.
I got this line straight from the Java Sun guides.
This gave me errors, and I corrected it with this.
Apparently, I am using Java Eclipse SDK and within it says
-JRE System Library [jdk 1.5]-
Unfortunately, some of these programs and facts from the Java website don't apply to this version. I was wondering if there is some sort of online tutorial that is more geared towards 1.5 .
EDIT: Even basic stuff like this happened.
I got this line straight from the Java Sun guides.
int i = 461012;
System.out.format("The value of i is: %d%n", i);This gave me errors, and I corrected it with this.
Integer[] w = {new Integer(1),new Integer(2),new Integer(3)};
System.out.format("The value of w is: %d%n", w); Last edited by bloody_ninja : Jul 10th, 2008 at 5:56 am.
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if you have no experience what so ever, maybe the best approach would be to figure out what OO is all about.
you're uncle may have provided you with all the software you need, but so do Sun combined with any which OS you're using.
if you have your JDK installed, a text editor is all you need to get started, and it is by far a better way to learn the basics than any IDE that'll make or complete fragments of code for you.
you're uncle may have provided you with all the software you need, but so do Sun combined with any which OS you're using.
if you have your JDK installed, a text editor is all you need to get started, and it is by far a better way to learn the basics than any IDE that'll make or complete fragments of code for you.
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The books "Head First Java" and "Core Java: Volume 1" are both good places to start if you want to go the book route. They'll provide more detailed step-by-step explanation of things than most individual tutorials you'll find on the web.
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I am and will be in China for the next couple of months, and I don't have any access to American books here. Although I am from the USA, it never occurred to me to bring over books.
*facepalms*
So, are there any online tutorials specifically for 1.5 version?
*facepalms*
So, are there any online tutorials specifically for 1.5 version?
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So, are there any online tutorials specifically for 1.5 version
1.5? i have 1.6 and all of the sun tutorials work fine for me, i believe that Sun keeps the JDK's backwards compatible, although you may get warnings of depreciations or "unsafe operations", usually meaning casting from a list of type object to one your using.
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How odd. As I stated before,
I am using Java Eclipse SDK and within it says
-JRE System Library [jdk 1.5]-
and about 1/3 of the programs give me a compiler error. I talked to a programmer and my uncle's office and he said yeah, some things are different so it wont work out as the tutorial says.
I am using Java Eclipse SDK and within it says
-JRE System Library [jdk 1.5]-
and about 1/3 of the programs give me a compiler error. I talked to a programmer and my uncle's office and he said yeah, some things are different so it wont work out as the tutorial says.
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