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> but shutting people down entirely is highly discouraging.
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Honestly, I'm getting more and more disappointed every time I see someone say, "I'm not doing your homework for you." and I'll tell you why...
and I'm tired by kids who complain that they aren't getting their homework done for them without showing any effort of their own whatsoever, especially kids who claim to be in their "final year" yet don't know the first thing.
How did those kids get through the rest of their "education" if it wasn't by cheating, something you endorse and facillitate?

I've been a programmer for many years now. I've seen many horrible text books, on top of equally horrible professors there are out there - and I've even experienced many myself.
And far more good ones.
If those kids were motivated to succeed they'd go out and do their own research, not post their entire homework assignments verbatim (ever more just posting a link to a school intranet site that's not even accessible to the outside world, showing their stupidity and laziness for all the world to see) and demand that it be done "ASAP!!!!!".

Yes, there are going to be those students that really don't want to try, and will go to any length to cheat in order to get by. Guess what? Not surprising that they're going to fail, and there's nothing that can be done about that. They will go elsewhere to get what they're
And we want them to fail quickly rather than cheat their way into a diploma and ending up making the entire profession look bad in hundreds of job interviews (which will be preceded by demands to give them lists of "interview questions" with associated answers so they can cram their head full of buzzwords to awe HR flunkies.

doing your homework!" That's not helping anyone. Don't think about those who are out there to slack off - there will always be those out there. What you need to do is help those who need to learn by example. Providing code snippets, or even the pseudo code will make a huge difference to those dedicated to learn, but shutting people down entirely is highly discouraging.
If they show effort, come with specific questions, they get help.
If all they do is post their assignments and require to have it done "ugrently" they get kicked where the sun don't shine.
Pretty much like you're being kicked right now in fact...
As people are clearly allowed to attack me but I'm not allowed to defend myself, I no longer post to this site.
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WHooooa!!!! :-|
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don't take the offence. I believe i am also like you. more like a visual learner. I can't go through the book to learn anything. And as being slow learner, i can't follow the profs in the class. All I have to do is self-study. When I get stuck into any problem, it is very rare i can find the errors until some one else helps me out. I believe in this forum, no one with similar problem like me was discouraged. A lot of helpful people are around here. Some times I have seen some to be li'l rude, but they were discouraged later for that.
I have a friend who is really a nice person wants to help people. Sometimes I see him on campus explaining some difficult theories to some of his friends, while those guys are instead of concentrating, looks around. I can figure out no one is getting any help through out this process. One good person is getting annoyed to help, on the other hand, a reckless person is just wasting his valuable time. I believe this is the point e'one here is trying to make. Hopefully, you understand now. And hey! be regular among us to help ppl out... cheers!!!
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The people looking for help are as varied as those offering.
I too am a very visual learner, and need examples, and found NO real help until this forum.
It does seem that some "helpers" only want to help those that do not need help at all.
While this post is a little silly and just looks like someone looking for answers, there is no need to berate the OP and make them feel stupid. If you do not want to help, then do not help, but if you are only here to push it in other peoples face how inept they are as compared to you, then who really needs the help?
I know I have asked ALOT of stupid questions, but I do try, and I keep trying, and sometimes I just do not get it. Ezzaral in particular turned the light on in my head more than once, and was more helpful than my first instructor. So, where some people would see my post as just lame or dumb, he took the time to walk through some very basic concepts with me and I am a better programmer today because of it.
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