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very basic GUI
CDE?

You know that you can install install Sun Java Desktop, which is basicall Gnome, right?

15 years in IT, and I have never seen that in production.
Exactly, because it cant find any developers
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I have installed the gnome there, the amount of available applets is extremely poor
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Thats because they only used the ones that ship with gnome itself (slackware does the same) , no extra ones. ubuntu etc.... ship with additional ones.
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you cah have quite a few administration tools in RHEL/CentOS, and entire GUI for everything in SLES, almost everything in Debian/Ubuntu... all for free, no need to do anything too complicated
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>ReactOS for example.
ReactOS is a terrible example. It's got layers upon layers of bugs. First, you've got the ReactOS kernel which was written from scratch, then you've got the Wine layer which provides the Windows binary compatibility for its userland, and then you've got the Windows userland. While it might in the future become useful as a Windows alternative (if it ever gets out of alpha stage), it's unlikely that it will ever be used for a production server.
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Yeah i know if you actually read my post I was using it as an example with relation to the comment

while all the Linux-fanatics spout their propaganda, preventing any up and coming mind which is willing to explore other options, from ever exploring anything else.
i was making the point that other options like reactos get no developers because they are all involved in linux.
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i was making the point that other options like reactos get no developers because they are all involved in linux.
Or maybe they just aren't interested in an operating system that promises to offer little more than most *nix operating systems have already been offering for years.
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examples please? windows server systems are in most cases much slower than *nix based systems, used for the same tasks on the same hardware.
even windows native smb/cifs is outperformed by properly tuned samba on linux
I honestly can't say too much about webservers, since I have no experience with them. But, I did read that Windows exceptionally well for desktop systems. My textbook, however, was refering to XP. Vista is a bit different, in that it tries to better implement Symmetrical Multi-Processing. I think that as a result, you end up losing some of the performance you'd have with XP in single-processing.
But, the thing to consider with Windows (XP or Vista), is that the OS has system calls for desktop graphics. That isn't something present in Linux.

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solaris has its own issues.
I know, but I just bring it up because it feels to me that people out there act like Linux is the shit, and that's all there is to it. Linux is good for specific things, but it's not the end-all OS solution for any problem.
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I honestly can't say too much about webservers, since I have no experience with them. But, I did read that Windows exceptionally well for desktop systems. My textbook, however, was refering to XP. Vista is a bit different, in that it tries to better implement Symmetrical Multi-Processing. I think that as a result, you end up losing some of the performance you'd have with XP in single-processing.
But, the thing to consider with Windows (XP or Vista), is that the OS has system calls for desktop graphics. That isn't something present in Linux.
well, I certainly get better performance out of my laptop running on an Intel VGA 945 card, with full compiz functionality and other pretty whatnots, than having run vista with aero on the same laptop.


I know, but I just bring it up because it feels to me that people out there act like Linux is the shit, and that's all there is to it. Linux is good for specific things, but it's not the end-all OS solution for any problem.
neither is windows. for simple usage, such as office work or running specialised accounting software maybe - windows is better. for servers it only has a few highlights due to the fact that a large software company sat down and wrote some specific software. I am talking about ms exchange, which is for now still better than zimbra, openxchange and other opensource solutions, but software like that can easily be written for linux, and will probably perform better there, due to the extra flexibility of linux for fine tuning.

my company actually runs on zimbra, and we are pretty happy with the product, nobody misses the old exchange days
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IMHO windows servers are much easier to administer. Linux systems are cheaper from a licensing point of view but many companies already have admins trained in windows and own ms licences. for them its often cheaper just to stay with ms rather than face headaches.

Vista is a bit different, in that it tries to better implement Symmetrical Multi-Processing. I think that as a result, you end up losing some of the performance you'd have with XP in single-processing.
No? SMP has been supported like since NT4.
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