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heres a run down

6800GT $389 overclocks easily to a 6800Ultra ,Ultra outperforms a X800XT

X800XT $474 overclocks easily to a X800Xt PE, X800XT PE outperforms a 6800Ultra in most cases
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Just remember that overclocking isn't always guaranteed to work. While many people may report successes, you shouldn't assume that your card will manage the same.
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well on paper 150Mhz and 100Mh doesnt seem like that much extra strain on the gpu and ram.
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Originally Posted by rcrevolution
heres a run down

6800GT $389 overclocks easily to a 6800Ultra ,Ultra outperforms a X800XT

X800XT $474 overclocks easily to a X800Xt PE, X800XT PE outperforms a 6800Ultra in most cases
These figures are all wrong... haha. the prices... comparisons, overclocking, its all wrong!

Do not listen to these figures!!

Overclocking this much is NOT a task to take on lightly, nor is stability NEAR as good as it should be.
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wow man the prices are right off newegg, what are you talking about they are not right.

and those figures are if you Oc the card, you dont need to but thats what it would most likely be.
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Originally Posted by JonnyBlazexx
Not to take away by any means from what cdt1983 said. He makes a valid point. With a upper range system such as what he has, games are playable on a fx5200. However, I have a gainward fx5200 that i have trtied on my rig ( a tough higher in specs... so the video card is 100% guaranteed to be the bottleneck for everything) I tested the fx5200 because when I built my computer this summer, it was harder than hell to get ahold of a geforce6800gt for less than 450 dollars, and I didnt want a stuipd pny card.

But back to the fx5200. Yes, it is playable (tested doom3, farcry, unreal tournament 2004 etc. The game could definately run things fairly smooth, and because it is still in the fx series (even though the bottom of the line) it still had the shading technology as well as everything else offered int he fx line over the geforce 4 line. When cdt1983 says I just have to question what he considers to be good quality? The games do look ok, and are very playable... but there is much to be desired. Especially once you know what is out there. Upgrading to my friends 9800 pro trumped the fx5200 severely not only in being able to have higher resolution, a few more graphic settings, but also the nice ability to hvae anti-aliasing enabled to a small degree. As I jumped up to my geforce 6800gt, as I said, it is leagues ahead. I went from being able to run at 1024x768 at decent settings (other than in doom 3, which could not handle as too high of settings and still keep smooothness to it) to the 9800pro which would do things in the 1280x1024 range with similiar settings, but having antialiasing enabled. Then with the advance to the 6800gt, I was able to run farcry with settings maxed out in everyway, other than antialiasing (which i leave at 4x, to keep the game running smoothly), in doom 3 high graphic settings with everything enabled with max settings on the high setting with an antialiasing of 4 or 8 times.

There is truly a difference in video quality to be considered, but cdt1983 makes valid points in saying that the gaming is very playable and looks decent (ok he said pretty good but it is merely ok). If you can be happy with this.. then definately find a good geforce fx5200 in the 50-80 dollar range (although i highly recommend splurging to the 9800pro for 100 dollars!!)

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JonnyBlaze, I think you have convinced me to upgrade to the 9800pro. My friends needs a card and his PC will be fine with FX 5200. I just got Doom 3 and you make the 9800pro sound a lot better. I'll have to shop around for it.
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wow man the prices are right off newegg, what are you talking about they are not right.

and those figures are if you Oc the card, you dont need to but thats what it would most likely be.
Sorry I was not trying to dis you or anything. honestly!

But the prices are way off. Those are for the cheapie cards. and that goes hand in hand with crappy overclocking. BFG is known for making pretty stable cards, thats why I bought one of theirs.. I can overclock to near ultra speeds... i could flash the bios and overclock it to true ultra speeds... but even with the HUGE heatsinks and dual fans.. i dont think its a good option. Just wanted to let everyone know that. Yes, people have DONE it, but it isnt very realistic to buy a gt and say you are going to overclock it to an ultra and expect it to perform all that well. In fact as I got closer and closer to overclocking to ultra.. weird things were happening, artificats... sometimes even a general slow down.

THe term: "you get what you pay for" isnt always true, as we all know, but for the most part, if you pay a lot less for a cheaper board you will get what you pay for. Dont go PNY! :lol:


at newegg... cheapest 6800gt is 389 (that I could find) if the price is anylower it is a card with less memory most likely. but anyways.. i would definately say for 25 dollars more to get my BFG 6800gt OC or a gainward card. Asus makes good stuff too. I mean most card companies are good, just dont get PNY, seriously, or EvGA. very awesome reviews from people who DO reviews.. not just amateurs like myself, and I find myself to be a better source then most little kids running around on the intenret these days. I only have my limited real life experience to run off of though.
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JonnyBlaze, I think you have convinced me to upgrade to the 9800pro. My friends needs a card and his PC will be fine with FX 5200. I just got Doom 3 and you make the 9800pro sound a lot better. I'll have to shop around for it.
I am glad that you liked what I had to say! Again, i hope i did not offend you using your fx5200 for comparison. I just had my real life experience with mine. I think its a fine card. As long as you have a computer with pretty beefy specs (such as yours) it runs pretty fine. But there is, as I stated the image quality to be considered.

Also when you consider doom 3, I did have my amd 64 3500+, my gig of ocz eb ram, and my raptor 10000 rpm harddrives, to help in running it with the 9800pro. But i do belivee it to be a quality card for the money. My friends 9800 that he bought (i am the one who convinced him to get it originally. hah, but he was 100% happy) was about 100 bucks, it was i believe.. just a straight up one from ATI.

NOTE!! :!: :!: :!: :!: wow, I just looked at newegg. the prices are insane!! 165 is the cheapest for an oem ATI card. That is DEFINATELY more than my friend paid. I do not know why there would be arise in price? I am at an utter loss for words. I guess you will have to reevaluate this added cost. I do not know that i could reccommend that so easily now. Thats quite a jump. I will have to do some more research and thinking and get back to you.
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Something else, rcrevolution was saying that you could simply overclock a 6800GT or X800XT to 6800ultra and X800 PE. This is semi-true, if you know what your doing and you have good cooling, you should be able to overclock 6800GT's and X800XT's to run about as fast as a 6800ultra or X800 PE. However, he neglected to mention that if you did go for an ultra or PE, those can be overclocked just as much.
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yes but we started talking about the gt so i purposly didnt mention the high end cards.

what about XFX are they any good?
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