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Originally Posted by Jonnie_Cellmate 
Ok, well it appears I'm out of luck here, I guess. Last-ditch effort...any ideas on how I can reset all my network settings to default so I can start over from scratch?
Thanks.
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Originally Posted by aeinstein
Hi Jonnie, Sorry I haven't been replying - this is the first automated notification I've gotten on this thread since my last post! Before you reset everything try disabling both of the tunneling adapters on the Vista laptop. If you haven't done so as yet, and don't mind spending a few extra bucks, get an ethernet cross-over cable and connect the two computers directly together. This will rule out any issues that might possibly be arising from using the router and is as basic a connection as we can get to rule out external issues. Of course, whenever you change your physical connections make sure you do a complete shut down, wait a full ten count at least and then restart each computer.
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : (deleted)
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek 8185 Extensible 802.11b/g Wireles
s Device
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-A8-F3-84-86
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.35(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, November 18, 2008 11:09:20 AM
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Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 80.58.61.250
80.58.61.254
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-03-25-48-CC-89
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : YesThe Vista laptop SOMETIMES sees the XP machine in the Network window, but can never access it as previously discussed (error code 0x80070035, The network path was not found). And Vista laptop is still only able to ping XP machine AFTER XP machine pings the Vista laptop first. I'll try picking up a crossover cable asap. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by jbennet
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Hi Jonnie, I've copied your IP info for the two machines, which I show as follows:
This tells me that both machines are on separate networks, among other things, which is fine, but to troubleshoot an issue that's proven so problematic the best way to do so is to break things down to as basic a scenario as is possible under the circumstances. Please let us know if you're willing to connect the two machines directly via a cross-over cable as a temporary step in resolving your problem?
XP IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.128.0.79
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.128.255.254
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 198.41.0.4
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 198.41.0.4
Vista IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.34
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 80.58.61.250
80.58.61.254This tells me that both machines are on separate networks, among other things, which is fine, but to troubleshoot an issue that's proven so problematic the best way to do so is to break things down to as basic a scenario as is possible under the circumstances. Please let us know if you're willing to connect the two machines directly via a cross-over cable as a temporary step in resolving your problem?
Last edited by aeinstein; Nov 18th, 2008 at 11:50 am. Reason: emplace forgotten code tags
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Originally Posted by aeinstein
Hi Jonnie, I've copied your IP info for the two machines, which I show as follows:
XP IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.128.0.79 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.128.255.254 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 198.41.0.4 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 198.41.0.4 Vista IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.34 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 80.58.61.250 80.58.61.254
This tells me that both machines are on separate networks, among other things, which is fine, but to troubleshoot an issue that's proven so problematic the best way to do so is to break things down to as basic a scenario as is possible under the circumstances. Please let us know if you're willing to connect the two machines directly via a cross-over cable as a temporary step in resolving your problem?
aeinstein, that's not my XP ipconfig info...it looks like you copied that from a sample you provided earlier in this post. My current XP ipconfig/all info is as follows:
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : (deleted)
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-01-29-D6-01-50
Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 802.11g USB Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-03-C9-4E-F4-2A
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.34
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 80.58.61.250
80.58.61.254
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I reread the entire thread to check facts as well as to pull out what I think is pertinent info, which follows:
1) The two computers were able to communicate via the network previously (so, they should be able to communicate once again).
2) It's an interesting tidbit that your LAN play of SS2 stopped at the same time - did you play it from the XP machine only?
3) Both systems are part of the same named network, being "WORKGROUP".
4) From zeroth's post you were able to identify & rectify the issue with the "restrictanonymous" setting.
5) On the Vista machine the network link in the Network and Sharing Center utility appears to be roaming even when you're actually connected to the "WLAN_AD" network.
6) You're getting error code 0x80070035 on the Vista machine - this can actually be pointing us to the problem now that I've looked up the error code on MS's support pages (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/958285/en-us). Did you setup a VPN for the two machines which has now failed?
7) You've tried setting up a stand alone network (ie, through the router) with the two machines, temporarily turning off all security programs *after* the network had been isolated, without resolution.
8) It appears that you've added Nvidia Network Interface Cards (NICs) to both machines. In order not to butt our heads against the wall unnecessarily here I'd *strongly* recommend physically removing the extra NIC from each machine until this issue is removed, although I'm sure you'd rather pursue the troubleshooting steps from the MS support page concerning the 0x80070035 first. Personally I would remove the extra NIC's first, but that's your call of course. Two, or more, NIC's in the same box (whether as an actual NIC or an on-board adapter) can often be quite problematic once a connectivity issue arises, so removing one if not in use/essential to operations would be strongly recommended. Sorry, I should've picked up on that one sooner. :/
9) A partial capture of your ipconfig/all info is as follows:
Vista laptop XP Desktop
10) Good catches by jbennet and RLHenning - hopefully I would've seen the DHCP issue but I know essentially nothing about Vista - at least Vista specific - configurations/abilities, etc.
At this point, if I were experiencing the issues you're encountering, I'd follow-up on the MS support link first. If that didn't work I'd remove the secondary NIC's from both machines and then retry the MS support trouble shooting procedures. If I still couldn't connect both machines I'd bypass the router entirely and connect both machines directly to each other with a cross-over cable, and, once I had the two machines isloated from any external connection(s), I'd disable "anti-" software - anti-virus, anti-spam, "anti-intruder" (ie, firewall), etc. And if all that didn't work? I'd pick up knitting or basket weaving! :}....but talk to us first
1) The two computers were able to communicate via the network previously (so, they should be able to communicate once again).
2) It's an interesting tidbit that your LAN play of SS2 stopped at the same time - did you play it from the XP machine only?
3) Both systems are part of the same named network, being "WORKGROUP".
4) From zeroth's post you were able to identify & rectify the issue with the "restrictanonymous" setting.
5) On the Vista machine the network link in the Network and Sharing Center utility appears to be roaming even when you're actually connected to the "WLAN_AD" network.
6) You're getting error code 0x80070035 on the Vista machine - this can actually be pointing us to the problem now that I've looked up the error code on MS's support pages (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/958285/en-us). Did you setup a VPN for the two machines which has now failed?
7) You've tried setting up a stand alone network (ie, through the router) with the two machines, temporarily turning off all security programs *after* the network had been isolated, without resolution.
8) It appears that you've added Nvidia Network Interface Cards (NICs) to both machines. In order not to butt our heads against the wall unnecessarily here I'd *strongly* recommend physically removing the extra NIC from each machine until this issue is removed, although I'm sure you'd rather pursue the troubleshooting steps from the MS support page concerning the 0x80070035 first. Personally I would remove the extra NIC's first, but that's your call of course. Two, or more, NIC's in the same box (whether as an actual NIC or an on-board adapter) can often be quite problematic once a connectivity issue arises, so removing one if not in use/essential to operations would be strongly recommended. Sorry, I should've picked up on that one sooner. :/
9) A partial capture of your ipconfig/all info is as follows:
Vista laptop
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-A8-F3-84-86
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::8c01:29e1:409c:15c2%9(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.136(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 80.58.61.250
80.58.61.254 Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-03-C9-4E-F4-2A
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.34
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 80.58.61.250
80.58.61.25410) Good catches by jbennet and RLHenning - hopefully I would've seen the DHCP issue but I know essentially nothing about Vista - at least Vista specific - configurations/abilities, etc.
At this point, if I were experiencing the issues you're encountering, I'd follow-up on the MS support link first. If that didn't work I'd remove the secondary NIC's from both machines and then retry the MS support trouble shooting procedures. If I still couldn't connect both machines I'd bypass the router entirely and connect both machines directly to each other with a cross-over cable, and, once I had the two machines isloated from any external connection(s), I'd disable "anti-" software - anti-virus, anti-spam, "anti-intruder" (ie, firewall), etc. And if all that didn't work? I'd pick up knitting or basket weaving! :}....but talk to us first
"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo Galilei
"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind." - Albert Einstein
"Good judgment comes from experience, experience comes from bad judgment." - author unknown
"Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new." - Albert Einstein
(why "aeinstein"?)
Peace Be with You
"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind." - Albert Einstein
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"Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new." - Albert Einstein
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I'll respond to each of your points individually:
1) Yes, both computers were able to see each other previously, share files and play SS2 over the network.
2) We played networked SS2 on both the XP machine and the Vista laptop.
3) Yes, both systems are part of the same named network, being "WORKGROUP".
4) Per zeroth's post, restrictanonymous value is set to 0 (zero) on both the XP machine and the Vista laptop.
5) Yes, I believe my Vista laptop is also seeing my neighbor's wireless network. However, the laptop is definitely connected to my "WLAN_AD" network, which appears to be functioning correctly as far as the Internet is concerned.
6) Regarding error code 0x80070035, I installed the Vista hotfix recommended by Microsoft, but it didn't solve the problem. There is no VPN set up.
7) Yes, turned off all firewalls and antivirus software: Avast, Windows Firewall, Windows Defender. Computers still weren't able to see each other.
8) I have not added any NICs to either machine. The XP motherboard (DFI Lanparty NF4 SLI) has onboard dual Gigabit LAN. The Vista laptop came equipped with Realtek Wireless and Nvidia network controllers. I can try disabling one or the other if you think that might help, but I cannot physically remove them from the computers.
9) Regarding ipconfig info, the IP address for my Vista machine appears to have changed to 192.168.1.35...not sure why, but that's what it is now.
10) I have enabled DHCP on both computers.
I was able to purchase a cross-over cable and have both computers connected...it works perfectly!!! Both can see each other and I'm able to share files without a problem. Still unable to get them to play nicely together over the wireless network.
Thanks for all your help.
1) Yes, both computers were able to see each other previously, share files and play SS2 over the network.
2) We played networked SS2 on both the XP machine and the Vista laptop.
3) Yes, both systems are part of the same named network, being "WORKGROUP".
4) Per zeroth's post, restrictanonymous value is set to 0 (zero) on both the XP machine and the Vista laptop.
5) Yes, I believe my Vista laptop is also seeing my neighbor's wireless network. However, the laptop is definitely connected to my "WLAN_AD" network, which appears to be functioning correctly as far as the Internet is concerned.
6) Regarding error code 0x80070035, I installed the Vista hotfix recommended by Microsoft, but it didn't solve the problem. There is no VPN set up.
7) Yes, turned off all firewalls and antivirus software: Avast, Windows Firewall, Windows Defender. Computers still weren't able to see each other.
8) I have not added any NICs to either machine. The XP motherboard (DFI Lanparty NF4 SLI) has onboard dual Gigabit LAN. The Vista laptop came equipped with Realtek Wireless and Nvidia network controllers. I can try disabling one or the other if you think that might help, but I cannot physically remove them from the computers.
9) Regarding ipconfig info, the IP address for my Vista machine appears to have changed to 192.168.1.35...not sure why, but that's what it is now.
10) I have enabled DHCP on both computers.
I was able to purchase a cross-over cable and have both computers connected...it works perfectly!!! Both can see each other and I'm able to share files without a problem. Still unable to get them to play nicely together over the wireless network.
Thanks for all your help.
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Just figured I'd post an update on how things were going with my xp/vista network problems.
As of today, and for some reason totally unknown to me, both the xp desktop and vista laptop are able to see each other over the wireless network and file sharing works as well. I have made no changes to any network, security, or sharing settings so I have no idea why all of a sudden it's working.
One thing I did do a couple of weeks ago was set up a third laptop running Ubuntu (linux distro), which I might add was able to see and share files right away with both the xp and vista computers. But I'm doubtful this had anything to do with fixing the xp/vista problems.
Anyway, things appear to be working for the moment, although I'm not necessarily inclined to mark this post as "solved".
Thanks.
As of today, and for some reason totally unknown to me, both the xp desktop and vista laptop are able to see each other over the wireless network and file sharing works as well. I have made no changes to any network, security, or sharing settings so I have no idea why all of a sudden it's working.
One thing I did do a couple of weeks ago was set up a third laptop running Ubuntu (linux distro), which I might add was able to see and share files right away with both the xp and vista computers. But I'm doubtful this had anything to do with fixing the xp/vista problems.
Anyway, things appear to be working for the moment, although I'm not necessarily inclined to mark this post as "solved".
Thanks.
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