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Buy the 3500+. The 4000+ is far too expensive for the extra performance you would get.

If you want stability, I would consider the Asus A8V Deluxe. For overclocking, I would go for the Abit AV8.

For rendering, the best route would be professional 3D graphics cards, which cost a fortune if you choose top of the range. Otherwise, I would just pick out a 6800GT. The only difference between it and the ultra is reduced clockspeeds. Plus you will easily get 1.5 years out of it.
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Buy the 3500+. The 4000+ is far too expensive for the extra performance you would get.

If you want stability, I would consider the Asus A8V Deluxe. For overclocking, I would go for the Abit AV8.

For rendering, the best route would be professional 3D graphics cards, which cost a fortune if you choose top of the range. Otherwise, I would just pick out a 6800GT. The only difference between it and the ultra is reduced clockspeeds. Plus you will easily get 1.5 years out of it.
Aye, I agree with you, the 3500+ is a much better deal. I used this article to compare the varius mobos. I am willing to spend the amount of money quoted in both builds (they will cost the same). The ultra is in fact quite a bit faster than the 6800GT, even the though the 6800GT may be a better deal.
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Looking at this, it seems that higher quality RAM gives you some big performance increases. Any arguments with this? Did I read something wrong?
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Looking at this, it seems that higher quality RAM gives you some big performance increases. Any arguments with this? Did I read something wrong?
Its always been a fact that more RAM means more power, also the qaulity counts. I mean you cant buy shitty RAM for 5 bucks and expect it to run like Kingston.
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Its always been a fact that more RAM means more power, also the qaulity counts. I mean you cant buy shitty RAM for 5 bucks and expect it to run like Kingston.
Naturally, but I always assumed that as long as it was the same clock speed, the latency didn't have a paticularily large impact. I never thought that corsair value ram would be outperformed(more than marginally) by high end low latency RAM unless you were doing a lot of overclocking.
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You're correct oeone. There is a performance difference but it's not dramatic at all. Most of the 'Value' lines of reputable manufacturers operate at CAS3, while the 'performance' lines operate at CAS2. That makes for a noticeable difference, but by no means a dramatic one. It is, after all, only one small factor in overall system performance.

Besides, if you purchase RAM modules which are rated a speed level ABOVE what you wish to run, you'll most likely be able to operate it at tighter timings anyway, when you clock it back a bit
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You're correct oeone. There is a performance difference but it's not dramatic at all. Most of the 'Value' lines of reputable manufacturers operate at CAS3, while the 'performance' lines operate at CAS2. That makes for a noticeable difference, but by no means a dramatic one. It is, after all, only one small factor in overall system performance.

Besides, if you purchase RAM modules which are rated a speed level ABOVE what you wish to run, you'll most likely be able to operate it at tighter timings anyway, when you clock it back a bit
However, as I was looking at the benchmarks, it looks like there are performance gaps of 13 fps. Not to mention that the memory they were reviewing was all very high end, so there would be even larger performance increases over the 'value' lines. From what I can see, higher quality RAM offers more 'bang for your buck' than a faster CPU or video card.
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Some links to the tests you refer to would be helpful, rogue-monkey. I'm sure you are misinterpreting what you've seen reported.

Changing to a better display card brings the most benefit for games. Changing to a better cpu can help, but isn't really worth doing unless you are looking at a processor performance improvement of around 50% or better.

Using lower latency RAM would bring the least game performance improvement of the three.
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Yar... I didn't quite have my wits about me I suppose. After looking around a bit more it seems that your quite right, RAM has a very limited affect. If I had memory at CAS 2.5 timings, and I made them a little more aggresive, to CAS 2.0, what issues with stability/speed might I have to look out for? Thanks.
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If you sett your RAM timings tighter than your RAM modules will handle, you'll experience freezes, lockups and so on. It's best to stick to manufacturer recommended timings unless you are fully aware of what you are doing and what the effects will be. There are tools you can use, such as memtest86, which allow you to test your RAM for stability.
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